Colorado Sunburst Group

Discussion in 'Propagation' started by kinetic, Dec 31, 2017.

  1. jorahx4

    jorahx4 Supporting Member

    just an idea,

    what if you guys sell the first split to get the $1200 back for everybody, than just distribute splits to members after that.
    Or sell splits to members for like 25% of the value of them and have that 25% go to who ever takes care of the main one / club funds.
     
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  2. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    Not a bad idea. It could work. This way, the monetary risk period is decreased down to just one split time.
     
  3. Flagg37

    Flagg37 Officer at large

    Does anyone have any kind of idea what to expect for time between splits? I know my rbta splits about every 6 months. Is this species known to take longer or is it just completely random?
     
  4. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    Most likely has to do with tank conditions. I know people who have had the same BTAs for years that never split once. Some that split every few months. You could always cut, but might be better to let it have a natural split instead. I know Maximus' CSB splits regularly (which is how a lot of people now have the CSB).
     
  5. Ibn

    Ibn Supporting Member

    They split very slowly. Maximus' splits like once a year if he's lucky; it's a very slow process. Most of the designer nems that you saw in the past were cuts and that's where the risk is.
     
  6. Vhuang168

    Vhuang168 Supporting Member

    So I’ll ask.

    Why do you think csb are now $1200 when they were $500-$600 a few years ago.

    What causes the price to go UP? Most coral prices go down after a few years due to propagation and growing availability.


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  7. JVU

    JVU Supporting Member

    For me, high prices on propagated species is a HUGE red flag for survival/reproduction. There is just no way to keep the price high if it grows well in tanks.

    There are lots of beautiful stunning corals that are cheap because they grow well in captivity. Including quite a few that used to be expensive when first introduced.
     
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  8. iCon

    iCon Supporting Member


    My guess is the mass losses from farmers themselves. Several ill-timed crashes within the span of a few years. Initially, CSB from Gonzo were around 250-300. Then you started seeing 'Inferno' and other names pop up here and there, more or less saturating the market with these so-called 'flame BTAs'. That ran it's course like most coral fads and the price settled around the 300s. Then the farm crashes happened, and now they're more scarce than ever before. Several farmers have had trouble getting access to their original BTA strain.
     
  9. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    I'm not entirely sure if this is true, but I was seeing $500 as the going price. One day someone did a "live auction" on the CSB facebook group, and since it was in such high demand, the price skyrocketed to $1200 which it finally sold at. Then EVERYONE jumped on the bandwagon and started selling splits at that price. I'm sure I saw $500 price tags just days before this auction happened, and now nothing is ever less than that.
     
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  10. JVU

    JVU Supporting Member

    So probably $500 or less again soon


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  11. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    Will it? All those who have new splits will always try to keep the price up. Those who bought at $1200 will try to recoup their purchase. I know I would!
     
  12. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics Supporting Member

    Saw on RC Maximus sold a split for 400 1 year ago. So yeah hyped up prices are hyped.

    Unfortunately sellers don't realize auction prices don't represent the going rate but only what one person is willing to pay to guarantee he gets his
     
  13. JVU

    JVU Supporting Member

    I’m more willing to bet $1200 that the price will come down significantly within a couple years than I am to bet that I could successfully propagate 1 I bought for $1200 into 6 in a couple years lol
     
  14. Flagg37

    Flagg37 Officer at large

    What are some of the other designer nems going for?
     
  15. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    I think Supernova are also going for $1500. But, IMO, it just looks like a speckled Rainbow BTA.

    Others are all somewhere between $500 and $800.

    Lemon drop (if you can find one) goes for $900
    Inferno goes for $500
    Flame tip, $800
     
  16. jorahx4

    jorahx4 Supporting Member

    where do you find any for sale? iv been looking just to see how often they are sold and i cant find any haha.
     
  17. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    There's a Facebook group called Colorado Sunburst Marketplace. People just sell them there. It's a few sellers and a lot of buyers. You'll see some outrageous prices there, but I haven't found any good sources elsewhere.

    You'll see some for sale on CoralCollection, but that website is totally not working and they don't actually have inventory.
     
  18. iCon

    iCon Supporting Member

  19. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    Yeah, but don't order from that site. Those anemones don't exist. The guy who's "running" it is called Mak Corals. They took over when the Coral Collection people stopped doing business.

    I tried ordering before. The guy started yelling at me over the phone when I asked him what was up. At least I got a refund.
     
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  20. Flagg37

    Flagg37 Officer at large

    Hey if you didn’t get a refund at least you know you could call the credit card company and get them to charge back the transaction.
     
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