Zapping aptasia, what I've learned "so far"

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by screebo, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. yellojello

    yellojello Supporting Member

    Has there been an update with this DIY device and long term effectiveness?
     
  2. jestersix

    jestersix Sponsor

    I've been tempted to add a Klien's, but worry about my Dendros and clams - any word on that?
     
  3. screebo

    screebo Supporting Member

    The zapper has been used to kill hundreds of aiptasia in my tank. The problem is that the adults in the tank seem to sense the irradiation of the colony in progress and start a spawn of larvae. Nature is so very cool in their defense. It may be a coincidence but I think not. The end result is that despite the hours of zapping, my colony of aiptasia grew to immense proportions until........................................I added the Klein's Butterfly. That sucker has single highhandedly reduced my aiptasia population by 95%. I've redesigned my aqua scape and have a new theme/format. Fish and LPS mostly. I've moved all the pedestal mounted chalice and other LPS from the sand to semi permanent locations on the reef. It's beginning to look like a display tank again and the clear sand in from of the LR looks great. Gives the fish more wide open spaces to cruise around the tank too.
    The best zapper money can buy is not the long nosed hawk (Rodney Dangerfield) but the Klein's butterfly behind him.
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  4. screebo

    screebo Supporting Member

    My Dendro is fully intact. Including the little buds coming up around the perimeter of the "mother mouth" As are my limited selection of zoa's. Plus, now Mr. Klein can keep " Big Bad" the purple tang under control. He's such a bully! The aiptasia diet is giving Mr. Klein a real growth boost. I've watched him become much more well defined in color and texture as he is quickly matching the tang in size. You can actually see the Dendro in the background of the blurry picture above. It's coming back too as my tank get's over the meltdown.
     
  5. jestersix

    jestersix Sponsor

    Thanks John! That was my other worry - my Desjardin Sailfin & Mimic tangs...both are a first class PITA. They shredded a Copperband in minutes, barely got him out alive! I've heard Klien's are a bit bolder.
     
  6. screebo

    screebo Supporting Member

    Well...........except for this one thing...................(oops forgot to mention).........a smaller Kleins and great looking CB got shreaded or rather "badgered" to demise when I added the larger one that now reigns. He still squares off with the purple tang but they come to a stalemate every time. hehehe
     
  7. jestersix

    jestersix Sponsor

    Sounds like what I need - I figured I would have to add a larger Klein's since the two tangs are pretty good sized. Not too worried about the other fish, everything else is small enough to be ignored by the Klein's (Mandarin, Yellow Assesor, a couple of blennies and my clowns) - with the exception of my monster Melanurus wrasse and he can take care of himself!
     
  8. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    I think he prefers not to possibly release paly toxin into his tank... It can kill you.
     
  9. 650-IS350

    650-IS350 Supporting Member

    I just chip the rock under the invasive growing polyps... yea you don't want to get tagged with Palytoxin.
     
  10. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    I do the same, when I can. I have one rock that I got years ago that is not ancient coral but rather volcanic rock (Mexico cannot ship zoas or palys on anything but it) so I have to keep removing little rocks I place around it to create a dam :)
     
  11. Thales

    Thales Past President

    You have to not feed the shrimp for 1-3 weeks. When they get hungry, the eat the aips, if there is easier food, they eat that instead.
     
  12. screebo

    screebo Supporting Member

    Hey Gresh,
    Do palys produce significant quantities of toxin from any division or fragging? How long after a soak in Revive is it safe to place paly frags back into the tank. What other traumas can cause a paly to release toxin? How long does it take to break down in the tank? I ask these questions because I've never employed any special precautions regarding paly propagation or fragging.
     
  13. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    There is a lot on the net as far as reading on palytoxin, I'll dig some up in a day or so if you haven't found any good ones. I'm just poking in for a second today... busy busy
     
  14. 650-IS350

    650-IS350 Supporting Member

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19545971
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/04/05/world%E2%80%99s-2nd-deadliest-poison-in-an-aquarium-store-near-you/
    http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/palythoa-toxica-poisoning-one-reefkeepers-personal-experience-with-palytoxin-poisoning

    I've been tagged before.... not the best feeling ever. Now I always wear gloves, eye protection and mask (for nose/mouth) in case you get squirted in the eye, mouth or nose.

    The one palthoa you should really be worried about is true playthoa.

    Signs, Symptoms and Treatment

    For the aquarist, localized numbness and swelling are the most common examples of exposure to Polytoxin. If you experience these symptoms, it is recommended that you flush the area with freshwater for 15 minutes. If the signs or symptoms don’t abate (or if they get worse) seek medical attention.

    If sufficient quantities of Palytoxin get into your bloodstream, you may experience nausea and vomiting, muscles spasms, non-localized tingling sensations and numbness, and, ultimately, respiratory distress. These are all indications that the intoxication has gone systemic, and you should seek medical attention immediately. The ones in bold, that was what I felt twice and never want that to happen ever again.
     
  15. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    Thanks Charles.

    Ive bern nailed quite a few times both at work and at home. Ive been lucky.
     
  16. 650-IS350

    650-IS350 Supporting Member

    so have I, my heart started to palpitate and it really scare the bajesus outta me. I don't take these polyps for granted anymore.. Had some slime from some really big palythoas was fragging for a bunch of people.. didn't know some slime residue was on my top part of the wrist part of my gloves.. rubbed my nose as it was itchy, didn't know hit my mouth.. automatic mouth numbness and tingling.. metalic taste. knew I got tagged right away.
     

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