German charged with smuggling coral through Oregon - 40 tons of coral

[Elite]

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2009/February/09-enrd-125.html

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[hiepatitis]

Man what a crime. That's a crap load of corals.

 

[drdoolittle]

thats a waste, i hope they donated the corals was donated to a public aquariums..

 

[Gomer]

most likely they were trashed

 

[fishnfst]

a lot of time for illegla fish they confiscate them then have to freeze them for evidence..

 

[hiepatitis]

even if they were donated to local aquariums they'd probably die. i haven't been to an aquarium where they could afford to provide ideal conditions for sps. but maybe i haven't been to enough

 

[GreshamH]

Guys it was calcium reactor media :lol:

 

[Elite]

By the time our goverment know what to do with it, it will become calcium reactor media >..

 

[GreshamH]

IT IS CALCIUM REACTOR MEDIA....READ MY LIPS IT":S NOT CORAL AND YES I AM SHOUTING

It's not LIVE coral folks and this is not the first time. The government is not playing fair on this game and you are getting hyped up by a court case you don't undersatnd or have the full info on. Google it harder, but stop calling it live coral

 

[GreshamH]

Read: http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1234583704198930.xml&coll=7

This stuff:

 

[Elite]

ah ok.. the article says Coral.. It's not like they take picture of it.. We can only tell based on what they say. If you are right, they must be really stupid not to be able to tell live coral from dead coral..

 

[LeviT]

They actually list the species, are you saying they were 40 tons of dead coral.... that's lame.

 

[iani]

Phong, I think they know that the coral is not alive. However it seems like they are getting this guy on a technicality.

 

[GreshamH]

NO, it's classified (as all live rock, dead "live" rock = scleratinia) as coral. That is how CITES classifies it, as well as USF&WS. It's the reader of the document who needs to be informed of what is called what After all, ignorance of the law is illegal

Google somethign you don't understand but don't play into the hype. Think about it, 40 tons of live corals? Do you know how many boxes that is? More then the US brings in for several weeks That would fill an airliner, if not more then one.

 

[GreshamH]

[quote author=LeviT link=topic=6392.msg81751#msg81751 date=1234803738]
They actually list the species, are you saying they were 40 tons of dead coral.... that's lame.
[/quote]

Yup, the ID'd the skeleton. After all, proper coral ID is done by the skeleton.

 

[GreshamH]

[quote author=iani link=topic=6392.msg81752#msg81752 date=1234803792]
Phong, I think they know that the coral is not alive. However it seems like they are getting this guy on a technicality.
[/quote]

They know it's dead. Read my post about what live rock/dead rock is classified as. (scleratinia)

 

[GreshamH]

The USF&WS know live coral from dead coral folks. So does US Customs. They don't make cases like this all willy nilly like.

 

[iani]

So this is the same issue with getting Schuran calcium media to the states right?

 

[GreshamH]

Yup Exactly the same. FWIW it was Pacific Coast Imports in this side.

 

[iani]

So its GenX media then.