How rare is Flame Thrower Chalice

[70Cuda]

Is it really that great anyone ever seen it in person before. I have a chance to buy it from a private collector but he wants a hefty price.

 

[Gomer]

http://blueplanetcorals.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=121


never seen it in person.

 

[patchin]

Blue Planet has awesome stuff!

 

[sfsuphysics]

Chalices... the new acans... get a particular color morph in that no one has seen before... WAMMO instant limited edition rare... expensive.

I've personally never seen the red with yellow eye, but that doesn't mean it is/isn't rare.

 

[seminolecpa]

Atlantis Golden eye chalice is redish with a yellow eye. So is the rasta echino (at least in my tank).

 

[GreshamH]

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Chalices... the new acans... get a particular color morph in that no one has seen before... WAMMO instant limited edition rare... expensive.

I've personally never seen the red with yellow eye, but that doesn't mean it is/isn't rare.
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Chalices commanded a higher price before acans where on the "scene". Don't forget Tubs alien eye started over $100 a frag and that was well before the acan craze.

 

[iani]

It all matters on how much you like it. Personally the flame thrower chalice doesn't do that much for me. Plus its all hype it wasn't expensive until someone posted a picture of it on RC. Then all of a sudden the price on it went sky high.

 

[seminolecpa]

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Plus its all hype it wasn't expensive until someone posted a picture of it on RC. Then all of a sudden the price on it went sky high.
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Honestly isn't that the case with nearly any coral?

 

[Elite]

I don't see any red in that sucker LOL.... Good to be colorblind sometimes if you know what I mean ;D ..

 

[sfsuphysics]

Phong how would you like to buy a very rare brow...er Rainbow acropora?

 

[iani]

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[quote author=iani link=topic=5365.msg66592#msg66592 date=1228151020]
Plus its all hype it wasn't expensive until someone posted a picture of it on RC. Then all of a sudden the price on it went sky high.
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Honestly isn't that the case with nearly any coral?


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It may be to a certain extent. However, this coral along with the melting pot had the biggest push out of any chalices from RC hype.

 

[Elite]

LOL Mike.. I only buy nice bright green acro ;D ... Purple, red, orange and brown look almost the same to me..

 

[seminolecpa]

Here is a pic of my golden eye chalice for comparison

and my rasta echino

Sorry the pics are a little bit crappy.

 

[70Cuda]

Little confused here. We like or dont like rare or hot corals. Thought that is why we do dbtc extreme. Hype or no hype with any coral I think we pay for color, the more colorful the more expensive. Id pay more for things aquacultured because they will be hardier and not die. Some is hype yes, but alot is price of the care involved in raising something to be able to farm it. Hard to pay for something then it dies a few months later, rather pay more and know it has a higher chance for survival. iono... you get what you pay for.. as a side note I am sure there is a low percentage of people farming uncolorful specimans.

 

[patchin]

If I were considering buying this coral, I would ask myself if this is something that I really want in my tank, instead of thinking so much about how rare (expensive) it is. Does it WOW you?

 

[sfsuphysics]

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Little confused here.
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I'll try to fix your confusion with massive quoting!

We like or dont like rare or hot corals.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no... Something like the Purple Monster just doesn't do anything for me, ditto with the superman danae, and PPEs just as examples.

Thought that is why we do dbtc extreme.

We do DBTC simply to help "spread the wealth" and use it as a safeguard against tank crashes, the extreme bit is just taking DBTC to the point of sending out more than just "ordinary" corals.

Hype or no hype with any coral I think we pay for color, the more colorful the more expensive.

Define "color", I have a Acropora Yongei that's super bright green (aka green slimer), it's VERY colorful, however hardly an expensive coral. True multiple colors do tend to bring in more money, but not always.

Id pay more for things aquacultured because they will be hardier and not die.

I'd pay for aquaculture because I'd rather not rip another coral (multiple that by a few thousand to find the "good stuff") from the oceans

Some is hype yes, but alot is price of the care involved in raising something to be able to farm it.

Don't forget bragging rights... "look at my colorful coral! HA!"

Hard to pay for something then it dies a few months later, rather pay more and know it has a higher chance for survival.

I've had "aquaculture" pieces (i.e. they came out of someones tank, die very quickly, I've had wild stuff that.. well I still have. While yes survival is a nice thing for something we buy, I don't know if I'd equate these "hot" "rare" "Hyped" corals as "aquaculture friendly and survivable"

iono... you get what you pay for..

*cringe* Doesn't work that way in the coral market, you're paying for hype, desire, and quite a bit of supply and demand. Example, Pretty red colored bubble tipped anemones, super hype, super expensive, then a ton of them were coming in to the point that the markets were flooded, price dropped like a rock, some time later... markets are a bit dry, price has gone back up. It's still the same anemone.

as a side note I am sure there is a low percentage of people farming uncolorful specimans.

I dunno, depends what you consider "farming". Fragging corals for a profit? Maybe, simply because there's not a big market for "ho-hum" pieces.

Ok... hopefully that long quoted reply helps some confusion.

BTW, what "looks nice" differs by person, hype often makes people think something looks nicer than it is.

 

[70Cuda]

Maybe its not all hype, its those people with extraordinary photographic abilities. Like Mr. Elite, flatworms looked really cool in that photo he took. You see it you want it, covet it, gotta have it. (not the flatworms lol just mean things that look pretty). Wont know what something does for me really till i see it in person, that is why I asked opinions on it. Therein probably lies my error, I asked how rare it was and got inflamitory remarks, what I should of asked was what does it do for you and would you pay alot for it. I appologize if i offended anyone. That wasnt my intent at all.

 

[iani]

I don't think you offended anyone. In the end its up to you. I don't think anyone in the club has actually seen this coral in person. So no one can really give you an accurate idea of what to expect.

 

[Elite]

hehehe... my skill is nothing compared to other members here.. guess you haven't seen Eric's, Art's, Ian's, Sergio's and Rich's photo.. Those guys have skill. I don't...

 

[orientalexpress]

Ian can make mine look like that,I got a big colony of that from ausie.,$299.00 a Frag ,I'M RICH BITCH hehehe


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