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To answer the 2nd question as I see it, clownfish are an exception pretty much. I would say that damsels react like any other fish when put up against an anemone.
That being said, that looks like a condi (Condylactis gigantea) or at least something very closely related to it. They don't usually let anything host them (I'm surprised the clarkii was hosting it in the vid) and are known to eat fish.
That being said, that looks like a condi (Condylactis gigantea) or at least something very closely related to it. They don't usually let anything host them (I'm surprised the clarkii was hosting it in the vid) and are known to eat fish.
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Clownfish can't even withstand the stings of anemone, which is why when you introduce them they very quickly and rapidly brush up against the anemone, and here the biology escapes me but I believe it's along the lines of rubbing anemone gunk on themselves so the anemone thinks the clownfish is actually itself, hence they don't get stung.
However if a clownfish fluttered into an anemone like that I"m sure it'd get eaten as well.
However if a clownfish fluttered into an anemone like that I"m sure it'd get eaten as well.
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Mike- I've never found literature that specifically states how the clownfish do it. I know I've heard the theory that you mentioned, as well as one that goes along the lines of the clownfish secreting a slime on their skin that makes them immune to the stings.
Whatever the case, I've lost a 3/4-1" long a. percula to a ~4" diameter condy. Those things are just nasty...
Whatever the case, I've lost a 3/4-1" long a. percula to a ~4" diameter condy. Those things are just nasty...
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IIRC domino damsels can live in a host anemone...too tired too look it up right now...but throwing it out there as some input
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[quote author=phishphood link=topic=6419.msg82136#msg82136 date=1234933882]
To answer the 2nd question as I see it, clownfish are an exception pretty much. I would say that damsels react like any other fish when put up against an anemone.
That being said, that looks like a condi (Condylactis gigantea) or at least something very closely related to it. They don't usually let anything host them (I'm surprised the clarkii was hosting it in the vid) and are known to eat fish.
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Funny you should say that. I guy I work with (ex ORA larval tech) had a Clarkii hosting in a condy. He said it would first zip by barely touching and over time it would touch more and more.
FWIW they still do not know the interaction between clowns and anemones. They don't know if it's truly the rubbing or what!
Dominoes and I think even B cardinals can host in certain anemones. My friends yellow tang kinda hosts in a LTA with two of Robbins Onyx clowns. He gets right up in there...scares the crap out of me. I've seen tentacles hit him and he didn't even flinch!
To answer the 2nd question as I see it, clownfish are an exception pretty much. I would say that damsels react like any other fish when put up against an anemone.
That being said, that looks like a condi (Condylactis gigantea) or at least something very closely related to it. They don't usually let anything host them (I'm surprised the clarkii was hosting it in the vid) and are known to eat fish.
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Funny you should say that. I guy I work with (ex ORA larval tech) had a Clarkii hosting in a condy. He said it would first zip by barely touching and over time it would touch more and more.
FWIW they still do not know the interaction between clowns and anemones. They don't know if it's truly the rubbing or what!
Dominoes and I think even B cardinals can host in certain anemones. My friends yellow tang kinda hosts in a LTA with two of Robbins Onyx clowns. He gets right up in there...scares the crap out of me. I've seen tentacles hit him and he didn't even flinch!
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Really Gresh, nice to know. Guess I really should stop generalizing thinks, and add IME/IMO to all of my statements 
And yeah crazy things for other fish hosting in nems...I once thought I lost my carpenter's flasher wrasse, until I realized it was swimming in a holding pattern through my BTA...But I can say I've never heard/seen of any other fish but a clown hosting a carpet. I wonder if anything else has hosted in one of those before.
So can your ex-ORA guy hook it up with a job?
And yeah crazy things for other fish hosting in nems...I once thought I lost my carpenter's flasher wrasse, until I realized it was swimming in a holding pattern through my BTA...But I can say I've never heard/seen of any other fish but a clown hosting a carpet. I wonder if anything else has hosted in one of those before.
So can your ex-ORA guy hook it up with a job?
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FWIW I try to use IMO/IME as much I can. it can even get you out of legal problems when talking about another companies product 
If you want to make a lot less then you do now I am sure they could use a janitor. If you don't have a degree in the field you need not apply
If you want to make a lot less then you do now I am sure they could use a janitor. If you don't have a degree in the field you need not apply
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Hey Gresh, My Bangaii seems to hang around my RBTA without getting stung. I put in a small Bangaii later and it also seems not to be bothered by the RBTA. I know RBTA have a sting as I've brushed one with my hand by accident. I thought it was just my big Bangaii being lonely and hanging out with my clowns. Maybe RBTA are not as aggressive as other anemone? If I drop food into it's tentacles, it definitely reacts quickly.
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Yah, they're known for hanging out in anemones just like domino damsels
In this article they show a school hanging above an anemone. I wish I had my books here at work, I'd scan the pics I have of schools hosting in anemones with both dominoes and clowns
In this article they show a school hanging above an anemone. I wish I had my books here at work, I'd scan the pics I have of schools hosting in anemones with both dominoes and clowns
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Ah, but see Gresham, therein lies the hook. Currently I have a really nice-sized net loss as I'm still schooling myself. By degree I'm assuming a MS in aquaculture?
V- From what I can tell, IME & IMHO, BTA's have a relatively harmless sting. At least from the multitude that I've had. Not saying they can't catch things, but they seem a lot less likely to do so.
V- From what I can tell, IME & IMHO, BTA's have a relatively harmless sting. At least from the multitude that I've had. Not saying they can't catch things, but they seem a lot less likely to do so.
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In AC, MB, etc. It depends on what they would be hiring you for
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[quote author=phishphood link=topic=6419.msg82319#msg82319 date=1234986291]
V- From what I can tell, IME & IMHO, BTA's have a relatively harmless sting. At least from the multitude that I've had. Not saying they can't catch things, but they seem a lot less likely to do so.
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I thought so too, until last weekend when I had to move my nems from a holding tank back into my main tank, when out of the water the sting was almost unbearable
V- From what I can tell, IME & IMHO, BTA's have a relatively harmless sting. At least from the multitude that I've had. Not saying they can't catch things, but they seem a lot less likely to do so.
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I thought so too, until last weekend when I had to move my nems from a holding tank back into my main tank, when out of the water the sting was almost unbearable
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I got stung a few weeks ago (can't remember if it was out of the water or in). Was moving all my BTAs (which were on a large rock) to the RSM, and my husband was holding the rock while I adjusted some of the other rocks in the tank. I didn't realize that my forearm was touching one of the BTAs, and holy cow did it hurt. It felt like a cold burn, was pretty darn painful.
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My kids was Finding Nemo over and over right now and in the movie nemo is taught by his dad that he has to get used to the sting of each individual anemone, the more he brushes in it the less likely he will be stung. But this goes along with mikes theory in a way.
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It's all theory though 
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[quote author=Vincerama2 link=topic=6419.msg82306#msg82306 date=1234985402]
Hey Gresh, My Bangaii seems to hang around my RBTA without getting stung. I put in a small Bangaii later and it also seems not to be bothered by the RBTA. I know RBTA have a sting as I've brushed one with my hand by accident. I thought it was just my big Bangaii being lonely and hanging out with my clowns. Maybe RBTA are not as aggressive as other anemone? If I drop food into it's tentacles, it definitely reacts quickly.
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Oh, well that also answers one question I was going to ask in the future. This probably means I'm getting a few for my 34
Hey Gresh, My Bangaii seems to hang around my RBTA without getting stung. I put in a small Bangaii later and it also seems not to be bothered by the RBTA. I know RBTA have a sting as I've brushed one with my hand by accident. I thought it was just my big Bangaii being lonely and hanging out with my clowns. Maybe RBTA are not as aggressive as other anemone? If I drop food into it's tentacles, it definitely reacts quickly.
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Oh, well that also answers one question I was going to ask in the future. This probably means I'm getting a few for my 34
