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Max’s frag tank

max_nano

Supporting Member
Edit: this starts off with my Red Sea 170, then switches to my 24x24x12 frag tank.

After having the 10 gallon Nuvo for a few months it was time to upgrade. I purchased the tank and stand from @iCon and I have been working on getting it up and running the last 2 weeks.

I am not sure how to properly do a tank journal, but I’ll do my best!

Tank: Red Sea Reefer 170
Return pump: Jebao DC4000
Light: AI Prime HD+, hoping to add a second
Skimmer: Simplicity DC120
Co2 scrubber: BRS model
Testing equipment: Hanna, Red Sea, and some API
Controller: ApexEL

The first thing I did with the tank was remove the Red Sea return line and I replaced it with a union - gate valve - union - barb to connect to the return pump. I followed reef2reef user Broadfield’s build as a guide for how to DIY switch the plumbing to imperial. I got a male slip to male threaded piece and sanded the slip side down enough to glue it into the Red Sea return line. It has not been leaking yet and I believe it should hold up well since it is such a tight fit with how I sanded it. I believe I would benefit from a check valve somewhere on this pipe run to prevent a back siphon from the display from damaging the pump, but that’s not a huge priority since the sump can handle the volume of water that gets siphoned down in a power off situation.

For stocking the tank I put my mighty clean up crew from my old tank(hermits and snails) in the new tank and then added my two CB clowns and cleaner shrimp. I plan on adding some of the following: Blennys, gobys, firefish, cardinals, and a wrasse. Obviously I can’t have all of those in a tank this size, so if anyone has any stand out recommendations let me know. I want either firefish or cardinals for high water swimming, a fairy wrasse, and then some type of goby or blenny to chill on the rocks. I’m really uncertain at this point so if anyone has a favorite fish that would be well suited for a tank this size let me know!

Coral all came from my 10 gallon and I’ve collected pieces from @iCon , @Twisted , AquaSD, and Neptune aquatics. My favorite pieces are from the BAR members!

I will add pictures of the tank in just a little bit, if I missed anything major that a good tank journal should include let me know!


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sfsuphysics

BOD
Staff member
Tank journals are like writing in a real journal, there's no "right" way to do it, although pictures are a must, some people keep it very short and to the point, others (like myself) write huge paragraphs on the tiniest of details to the point where I can almost hear people reading it going "God damnit, where are the pictures already why did he need to write a 1000 word essay on why he put his valves where he did" :)
 

max_nano

Supporting Member
Tank once I got it before adding any water
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Red Sea plumbing before my DIY addition
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Tank getting some water, mixing 5 gal at a time took me awhile!
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Here’s a photo of the plumbing, if anyone is interested in doing the same I can send you the build log I used for inspiration as well as a parts list from PVC fittings online.
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And finally the money shots with some of the coral introduced, I’m still deciding where things are best suited which is a long process. I’m considering removing pieces from their plugs and glueing them to pieces of rubble. I did that for my toadstool and jawbreaker and I’ve found it is easier to place rock on rock then trying to jam a plug into a hole in the rock. And a rock looks more natural than a plug.
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Twisted

Supporting Member
Tank once I got it before adding any water
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Red Sea plumbing before my DIY addition
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Tank getting some water, mixing 5 gal at a time took me awhile!
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Here’s a photo of the plumbing, if anyone is interested in doing the same I can send you the build log I used for inspiration as well as a parts list from PVC fittings online.
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And finally the money shots with some of the coral introduced, I’m still deciding where things are best suited which is a long process. I’m considering removing pieces from their plugs and glueing them to pieces of rubble. I did that for my toadstool and jawbreaker and I’ve found it is easier to place rock on rock then trying to jam a plug into a hole in the rock. And a rock looks more natural than a plug.
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The tank looks great !! Love the build
 

Flagg37

Supporting Member
Tank journals are like writing in a real journal, there's no "right" way to do it, although pictures are a must, some people keep it very short and to the point, others (like myself) write huge paragraphs on the tiniest of details to the point where I can almost hear people reading it going "God damnit, where are the pictures already why did he need to write a 1000 word essay on why he put his valves where he did" :)
I’m glad you understand this about your self. :)
 

Eugene

Supporting Member
My 2c about fish - firefish are jumpers without cover. Starry blenny is my favorite fish - so much personality for a fish!
Congrats for a great start.


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max_nano

Supporting Member
@Eugene that is what I have heard, I’m planning on getting a net lid eventually. But for now the firefish will wait

Today I visited @Coral reefer so here are some photos including the new additions. I have also placed my carpet nem in a jail, if anyone is interested it is still free for pickup! (Supporting members only)

I added a powerhead to the lower right side of the tank to run on and off cycling each 5 min on Apex. I am hoping the increased flow should help polyp extension, and I placed it to “fight” the flow from the return pump as both pumps will hit the front glass from different directions. I am only using a hydor 426gph “dumb” powerhead, I think I want to eventually upgrade to Nero 5 or MP10 if anyone has any available.

My zoas have had some nice growth and I have a lot more heads, I want to try and frag some soon. The mixed information about zoa fragging does concern me, if anyone has a resource they trust and could share I would appreciate it. I am also interested in purchasing fragging supplies if anyone has a set they have enjoyed.

I hope everyone is doing well and has a great week. Happy reefing!

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max_nano

Supporting Member
Tested today with my Red Sea kit
Salinity 35 ppm (Hanna Checker)
Alk 9.1 dkh
Ca 440
Mg 1500
Ph 7.6-8.1 (from Apex)
Temp 78 - 78.5 (from Apex)

I don't love the swing that pH has during the day, but I am already running a co2 scrubber, might experiment with kalk in the ato but I'm worried about overdosing. I don't want to chase numbers and everything is looking okay besides an encrusting monti that has been losing its reverse superman colors (red with blue spots) and is now just a dark maroon with no more bright blue spots.

I fragged a piece of my stylo and it is growing well on the plug, I went with the sideways mounting method and am interested to watch the growth it has. I also cut a tiny piece of my green toadstool and have that rubber banded to a plug right now, that frag is also growing well. I'm interested in using these frags to test the coral in other spots in my tank just as a learning experiment.

If I can get some decent ones I will add photos to the journal soon
 

max_nano

Supporting Member
I need to get around to updating this. I’ve made some changes and modifications like converting the ATO into a refugium and rescaping.

For now I’d like to share some pictures since I just got an orange lens filter.

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max_nano

Supporting Member
I just caught my biggest Nem mid split.
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One of the nems escaped nem island when it rode the snail so I now have 4 on the nem island and 1 sneaking its way around the back of my rocks.
 

max_nano

Supporting Member
Refugium Mod
I wanted to add a refugium to my tank to aid the protein skimmer in nutrient export while also providing me with a reverse photo period for pH stability and a safe spot for pods to reproduce. Since I have the RSR 170 my sump space is limited so I decided to use the ATO which I’ve seen people do on this forum as well as on reef2reef.


I drilled my ATO and set it up with a 1/2” inlet and 1/2” outlet coming from my main return pump. Inside I’ve added a powerhead to tumble the chaeto because if I turn up the input it overwhelms the output plumbing and pours into the sump, luckily due to improper measurements my fuge is tilted to overflow back into the tank, a happy accident as Bob Ross would say. I have started to get GHA growing inside as well so I plopped a snail in to keep it at bay, but I might just scrape the glass to remove it and use that as an export method as well.

I have seen great results from the refugium and I am not seeing any algae in my display and it allows me to feed a somewhat heavy amount of reef roids, RN ROE, and nano reef frenzy. However, despite the AFS dropping in pellets dusted with Reef roids is not enough to feed the refugium and if I leave the tank for a day or two it seems to suck up all the nutrients and piss off my coral. I might tune the lighting schedule down for the weekends I visit my SO, or I will add a dosing pump for the AB+ aminos which might be enough to prevent the drop in nutrients. (I could also be wrong about the nutrient problem, but after testing alk and seeing its stability I believe my problems are nutrient based.)

I have already switched the light and am still looking to get something different, but I tried keeping the fuge low cost.

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max_nano

Supporting Member
Screen top
I was interested in adding a screen top because I’m really not interested in walking into my bedroom and seeing a clownfish or something laying dead on my carpet. Despite the terrible review from @Twisted I still made the bad decision to buy the Red Sea top kit. Long story short it took me a long time and it is uneven, but it will hopefully keep fish in. It does have some gaps, but I stuffed the mounting bracket of my AFS into the gap to hopefully limit escape points. I will be looking for a better option for the next tank, potentially a 8020 canopy with my lights that can lower and have a net within the framing that would sit over the tank when lowered with the lift some members here use for their canopy.


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max_nano

Supporting Member
Like I said in the fuge post I think I have had nutrient issues which has caused my monti digitata, stylo, birdsnest, chalice, blastos, favia, and platys to all lose tissue. So far they have started recovering besides the monti cap and birdsnest.

Coral shots:
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I rescaped when shelter in place started and besides adding better coral real estate by removing light blocking overhangs I also love that it created a view corridor that frames my jawbreaker so nicely.
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The zoa rock I made with everything I had listed plus a beautiful acan from @Solitaryensis
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@ofzakaria ’s beautiful nepthea coral and it’s first frags looking good and ready to distribute once life is back to normal
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max_nano

Supporting Member
I think I have another split in progress. The nems seem to like this spot on the rock to rip themselves apart, and of course it’s the hardest spot to see. This will bring the count to 6, I need to keep that going in this journal or I’ll never remember haha.
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ofzakaria

Supporting Member
I think I have another split in progress. The nems seem to like this spot on the rock to rip themselves apart, and of course it’s the hardest spot to see. This will bring the count to 6, I need to keep that going in this journal or I’ll never remember haha.
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Ooh how much I miss keeping nems.. they are awesome if it wasn't for their deadly stings, moving and splitting.
Ine day i will follow @NanoCrazed footsteps and do a nem only tank..
 
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