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Mike Yasin

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I have a couple of unused bags to give away. I could pass them to Michael potentially this weekend or if you want to send me a shipping label, I’ll throw in a box for you
 
Sounds cool. I ran out of reef roids twice, and a third through my BSD golden pearls

I feed so much… actually stuns me how much food material gets added to the tank and disappears into the coral
 
Mike Yasin said:
I switched to Urea and Ammonium dosing
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What I imagine
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psidriven said:
I started dosing synthesis to deal with my chronically low no3. Overfeeding frozen was getting pricey. You have any tips or suggestions?
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At some point you want to reduce nitrate all together- the challenge with synthesis is you can’t. I’ve heard of burns if no3 climbs above 10…. I mix 20g ammonium and 5g urea per liter. Dosing 20mLs per day and no3 @ 3-5. Most coral respond well to pre-nitrate metabolites, especially low ammonia.

Good article on this if you haven’t already read it.

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I dose ammonia occasionally, but mostly just "overfeed". My nutrients fall if I don't do anything, so I add a pinch of food every time I pass the tank and they hover around 10ppm NO3 and 0.15ppm PO4

My bristleworms and recently some vermitid snails have been proliferating at a worrying rate so maybe I'll start dosing liquids instead of dry food
 
tribbitt said:
I dose ammonia occasionally, but mostly just "overfeed". My nutrients fall if I don't do anything, so I add a pinch of food every time I pass the tank and they hover around 10ppm NO3 and 0.15ppm PO4

My bristleworms and recently some vermitid snails have been proliferating at a worrying rate so maybe I'll start dosing liquids instead of dry food
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Interesting what dry food can do to NO3/PO4 - I use a combo of NYOS algae+tdo+pisces PE mysis pellets-def jumped NO3 to 14 and PO4 to .6x Now that I am back to 1x of dry food and using ROE and artic pods -NO3 back down to 8 and PO4 down to .4x for the time being. I do dose sodium nitrate -yes-not as effective as ammonia but I had a rather bad outcome in that I had lost two fish over a week. I think my wrasse got a mouthful hanging by the return nozzle...

So now I am dosing that plus chaetogro plus some aminos. Lanthanum for PO control.
 
I used to feed TDO, ran out. Also currently out of reef roids, even though I really like how they perform. I now feed BSD mysis + HUFA flake and BSD Golden Pearls, sometimes soaked with Selcon

I'm curious about RS AB+, Acropower, urea, phosphate dosing, and I heard about some product where you mix 2 bottles together to encapsulate liquid foods into little packages for corals to eat? But I don't know if those will actually have a meaningful difference
 
tribbitt said:
I used to feed TDO, ran out. Also currently out of reef roids, even though I really like how they perform. I now feed BSD mysis + HUFA flake and BSD Golden Pearls, sometimes soaked with Selcon

I'm curious about RS AB+, Acropower, urea, phosphate dosing, and I heard about some product where you mix 2 bottles together to encapsulate liquid foods into little packages for corals to eat? But I don't know if those will actually have a meaningful difference
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That’s just fancy shit. Studies on natural reefs show lower net nitrate values and higher ammonia than we keep in our closed systems. The nutrient discussion has been focused on the end values (no3 and po4) whereas in nature, corals actually assimilate the building blocks more efficiently and has shown more resilience because of it.

I think there are going to be some who mix all of this together and then find out that the crossing of all these things will have some not so great consequences- namely how do we know the interaction between these things will not somehow affect the tanks biome or some enhanced degradation of an ingredient?
 
L/B Block said:
Interesting what dry food can do to NO3/PO4 - I use a combo of NYOS algae+tdo+pisces PE mysis pellets-def jumped NO3 to 14 and PO4 to .6x Now that I am back to 1x of dry food and using ROE and artic pods -NO3 back down to 8 and PO4 down to .4x for the time being. I do dose sodium nitrate -yes-not as effective as ammonia but I had a rather bad outcome in that I had lost two fish over a week. I think my wrasse got a mouthful hanging by the return nozzle...

So now I am dosing that plus chaetogro plus some aminos. Lanthanum for PO control.
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Lanthanum can be toxic with repeated use. Unless you’re running catalytic activated charcoal and GAC, it’ll be very challenging to get it out
 
Mike Yasin said:
That’s just fancy shit. Studies on natural reefs show lower net nitrate values and higher ammonia than we keep in our closed systems. The nutrient discussion has been focused on the end values (no3 and po4) whereas in nature, corals actually assimilate the building blocks more efficiently and has shown more resilience because of it.

I think there are going to be some who mix all of this together and then find out that the crossing of all these things will have some not so great consequences- namely how do we know the interaction between these things will not somehow affect the tanks biome or some enhanced degradation of an ingredient?
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I agree. I care about nutrient flux more than the values, but I'm still a little worried it'll bottom out as I can't ensure a continuous stream of nutrients, and instead feed in little batches
 
Mike Yasin said:
Lanthanum can be toxic with repeated use. Unless you’re running catalytic activated charcoal and GAC, it’ll be very challenging to get it out
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I use a very diluted dose (40:1) and dose into the protein skimmer -so far no ill effects to fish or corals - not to say it can’t happen in the future..

I do need to run another ICP to verify it’s not all over the place.
 
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