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I have some in my display or at least did before I moved everything into a holding tank. I am not sure I'll move them back in given how quickly they can spread. I had a central rock that I still have no idea how they got onto (I think one detached and floated onto it) and even after scraping with a bush + peroxide I couldn't get it permanently gone.
 
I have some in my display or at least did before I moved everything into a holding tank. I am not sure I'll move them back in given how quickly they can spread. I had a central rock that I still have no idea how they got onto (I think one detached and floated onto it) and even after scraping with a bush + peroxide I couldn't get it permanently gone.
They’re very stubborn and annoying. I did the following to get them under control:
Filter floss changed weekly
Added Bumblebee snails
Coral snow 1x per week
Feed fish small amounts with turkey baster, no broadcast feeding

I did the shotgun approach, which worked well over time.
 
April Update:

Overall things are good. I've noticed slow growth from zoas/mushrooms. LPS seem healthy, but I haven't noticed any significant growth. I think I need to spend some more time dialing this tank in.

Changes:
  • Added another $10 "wavemaker" but removed a $10 chalice coral. No change to budget.
  • Added a green hairy mushroom from my main tank ($0 PIF from myself)
  • I've been noticing some strange photosynthetic stuff appearing on the rockwork (see 2nd picture). I sort of think it's some kind of photosynthetic bacteria (just a guess). Anyone know what this stuff is?
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May Updates:

  • The 3 hermit crabs all died (RIP). Maybe there wasn't enough food for them.
  • Some stuff is surviving rather than thriving (purple favia, toadstool, candy cane).
  • Still experimenting with N and P dosing.
  • Trying fewer water changes while riding out the dino (?) wave.
Tank pics:

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The 3 hermit crabs all died (RIP). Maybe there wasn't enough food for them.
If it's ostreopsis, that can be toxic and fatal for some inverts. If you can get a sample of it under the microscope, then at least have a better plan on how to combat it. If you can confirm ostreopsis, then some carbon and UV will really help battle it. Also, a healthy dose of AquaForest Life Source will also help a lot.
 
If it's ostreopsis, that can be toxic and fatal for some inverts. If you can get a sample of it under the microscope, then at least have a better plan on how to combat it. If you can confirm ostreopsis, then some carbon and UV will really help battle it. Also, a healthy dose of AquaForest Life Source will also help a lot.
Interesting… I’ll buy or borrow a microscope to take a few pictures. Thanks!
 
June Update

I ordered a cheap $20 handheld microscope from Amazon to try to ID the snotty stuff in the tank (dinos?):
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I didn't have high hopes for image quality, given the price. I grabbed some snotty tank water and sandwiched it between two 1mm glass coverslips using a pipette. Below are some pics I took:

Mystery brown stuff:
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Stringy algae?
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Weird green blob:
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From what I gathered online, I'm looking for oval shaped cells between 30-80um. The closest thing I found is in the photo below (sorry I can't increase the magnification more).
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Digital zoom doesn't reveal much extra detail, but they seem very irregularly shaped (unlike dinos from photos I've seen online):
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@Darkxerox , @ReyDeFarts (or anyone else) any idea if these are dinos or not?

Out of caution, nothing I brought to the swap came out of this tank.

-Andrew
 

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June Update

I ordered a cheap $20 handheld microscope from Amazon to try to ID the snotty stuff in the tank (dinos?):
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I didn't have high hopes for image quality, given the price. I grabbed some snotty tank water and sandwiched it between two 1mm glass coverslips using a pipette. Below are some pics I took:

Mystery brown stuff:
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Stringy algae?
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Weird green blob:
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From what I gathered online, I'm looking for oval shaped cells between 30-80um. The closest thing I found is in the photo below (sorry I can't increase the magnification more).
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Digital zoom doesn't reveal much extra detail, but they seem very irregularly shaped (unlike dinos from photos I've seen online):
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@Darkxerox , @ReyDeFarts (or anyone else) any idea if these are dinos or not?

Out of caution, nothing I brought to the swap came out of this tank.

-Andrew
The next time I turned on the microscope after you gave me that sample the bulb went out. I need to replace it and then look. Its weird, I still have you sample and the brown stuff is still in it. Id figure if it was dinos they would of died by now.
 
June Update

I ordered a cheap $20 handheld microscope from Amazon to try to ID the snotty stuff in the tank (dinos?):
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I didn't have high hopes for image quality, given the price. I grabbed some snotty tank water and sandwiched it between two 1mm glass coverslips using a pipette. Below are some pics I took:

Mystery brown stuff:
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Stringy algae?
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Weird green blob:
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From what I gathered online, I'm looking for oval shaped cells between 30-80um. The closest thing I found is in the photo below (sorry I can't increase the magnification more).
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Digital zoom doesn't reveal much extra detail, but they seem very irregularly shaped (unlike dinos from photos I've seen online):
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@Darkxerox , @ReyDeFarts (or anyone else) any idea if these are dinos or not?

Out of caution, nothing I brought to the swap came out of this tank.

-Andrew
Not zoomed in enough to be able to ID. When I had dinos I used a kids toy microscope and surprisingly I got some pretty clear images. This is what my dinos looked like under a microscope and got ID’d as ostreopsis by Mack’s Dino group on FB. Very helpful guys over there
 

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Hard to ID. But from what I have seen, it doesn't appear to be dinos to me.

I'm dealing with some slimy brown stuff in one of my systems too. I need to stop being lazy and bring out the microscope.
 
Looks similar to what i have in my new LPS tank (and had before in my SPS tank when it was new). Not dino's based on what i could find. I beat it by feeding heavy and siphoning it off the rocks weekly. Had some on the sandbed, that has already cleared up.

-rob
 
Looks similar to what i have in my new LPS tank (and had before in my SPS tank when it was new). Not dino's based on what i could find. I beat it by feeding heavy and siphoning it off the rocks weekly. Had some on the sandbed, that has already cleared up.

-rob
Since I don't have any fish/inverts, I haven't been feeding the tank. I was dosing N/P, but very recently switched to feeding some leftover LRS juice prepared for my other tank. I'm hoping this helps. I'll try to scrub/siphon it off. I should stop being so lazy, it's only 3g haha.

Thanks for the mini sea cucumbers btw! They're super cool looking critters. I put them in my 65g.
 
Not zoomed in enough to be able to ID. When I had dinos I used a kids toy microscope and surprisingly I got some pretty clear images. This is what my dinos looked like under a microscope and got ID’d as ostreopsis by Mack’s Dino group on FB. Very helpful guys over there
I almost sprang the extra $$ for a legit microscope with a stand, sample holder, stage, etc. Yours looks pretty good for a toy microscope.

If it is dinos, I would think I would see dense groups of cells, like in your picture? It seems like the brown slimy stuff in the first pic doesn't have many oval shaped objects present.
 
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