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Let me know if you're interested in these before they go on the curb:

2x overhead LED lights approx 13"
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2x bar pendants:

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Interested in the led lights can you show.the wiring on back at your convince?

What are you replacing these with. The bar lights look cool if your aren't a tall person.
 
MichaelB said:
Cool, unfortunately I'll have to pass I keep forgetting I have old wiring with only 2 wires. It would take extra steps to hook these up in a safe way.
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newer lights are normally lower votlage. two wires is fine. black is power, white is neutral, green is ground. you can just delete the ground. only thing is you have to use a on/off wall switch. no slider light switches
 
Turkeysammich said:
newer lights are normally lower votlage. two wires is fine. black is power, white is neutral, green is ground. you can just delete the ground. only thing is you have to use a on/off wall switch. no slider light switches
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So it would be safe even without ground?

It would be to swap a light in our long hall way and maybe one in the kitchen. Both have on off standard wall switches wired to them.
 
Turkeysammich said:
yes, its safe..
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The technical, by the code, answer is if the light fixture has a metal enclosure, you should have it grounded in case a hot wire (120V) touches the light fixture and makes the light fixture itself "hot." This can pose a fire and electrocution risk. There are some plastic insulated or doubly insulated (Class II) fixtures that can be used without a ground when powered by 120V. If you don't have a ground wire, it should be grounded to metal conduit/gang box if it's there.

Turkeysammich said:
newer lights are normally lower votlage. two wires is fine. black is power, white is neutral, green is ground. you can just delete the ground. only thing is you have to use a on/off wall switch. no slider light switches
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Newer LED lights use lower voltage, but the hot wire to the fixture is usually powered by 120V. So that's typically a moot point. You would not need a ground wire if the LED is powered by wiring that is considered low voltage (< 50V).
 
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RandyC said:
The technical, by the code, answer is if the light fixture has a metal enclosure, you should have it grounded in case a hot wire (120V) touches the light fixture and makes the light fixture itself "hot." This can pose a fire and electrocution risk. There are some plastic insulated or doubly insulated (Class II) fixtures that can be used without a ground when powered by 120V. If you don't have a ground wire, it should be grounded to metal conduit/gang box if it's there.



Newer LED lights use lower voltage, but the hot wire to the fixture is usually powered by 120V. So that's typically a moot point. You would not need a ground wire if the LED is powered by wiring that is considered low voltage (< 50V).
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Technically, electricity isnt safe at all especially older wired homes. will your house burn down ? probally not. I did miss speak. 120v is the same. the differance is amps/watts. led uses less to produce the same amount of light. which uses less current. which is more efficient. technically. i dont have my glasses on so i cant see right now. lol, but yes. if your gang box is steel. which it should be cuz its a older home. ground it to the box. for the extra safety measure. since less power draw due to less current being used, its actually less strain on the whole curcuit.
 
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