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Francois at ELOS responded after I asked for a response (radio silence for a week now). He said impossible for him to send me a new stand. He keeps saying he wants to do everything possible, but I guess very few things are possible at this point. He says it's impossible because all the stands...

Ditto this. It's hard to beat the prices, especially delivering right to our door. But if the prices are pretty close, it's a good excuse to get out to a LFS.

I think where we don’t agree here is on what to expect for the price paid, though yes, the ways to remedy this are clear enough, it doesn’t change the amount I paid and how the quality is reflected. At least to me.

Yeah, back in the day, the Diamond series had just been announced, and it wasn't clear if the tank I got (elos 120) was Diamond Glass or not. I got so many different responses from ELOS at the time, and it was a mess. It seemed like a scam to get me to purchase some old stock at a premium price...

Thanks for the image. Yes very different! Does yours have an emergency drain? I'm still waiting for Francois to respond. He seems to be quick when it's an easy reply, but he hasn't replied regarding the stand issues since the only real way to resolve it is to send me a new one. Last time I...

@Mr2KiEu You have an ELOS 120XL right? Do you have the Quiet Drain 2? I'd like to compare to see if anyone else has this proclaimed "Quiet Drain 3," since there's absolutely no information about it anywhere.

Eep, I meant winter 2023. So yes, 1 year is still a long time. But with my busy schedule, taking my time like this will hopefully make for a very successful/long term tank! I know for sure new equipment will probably come out, so I’m ready to possibly have to sell for a loss and buy new. But I...

I have a breeder box that I'm holding my recovering CSB in. But my damn trochus snails keep dislodging the suction cups every day, so the box floats around and sometimes sinks to the bottom. I want to get some box that has strong magnets instead. Anyone have suggestions of one that has good...

Next plans: 1. Buy all I can during black friday sales (hopefully what I want will be on sale, but it's usually not the case) 2. Make a fake sump using cardboard and "install" all my gear into it 3. Do some dry fit plumbing to test out how everything will go together 4. Probably order from...

Oh yah, it’s actually double glass bottom. I just looked closely and there’s two layers, hence all the silicon.

Thanks for the offer! Luckily my brother-in-law came over and it took all of 20 seconds to lift. I think it’s just about 240 lbs, so not too bad!

I’m not entirely sure what those black blobs are, but maybe. It’s like multi sections maybe for flexibility perhaps.

Removed the rest of the crate sides (another hour of prying) and got the suction cups on. Waiting for muscle and then we’re going to put it on the stand. Stand is leveled and ready, though I am still waiting on a response from ELOS to replace all the jankiness. When they do, I’ll probably need...

I didn't even think of the rust. I believe it was powder coated with gray already, and then since I wanted white, they sprayed white paint. Hopefully that means it's still protected. Either way, I think you're right. Having them send me a new stand would be ideal. Heck, if they pre-assemble it...

Maybe someone can tell me, do these paint problems seem unacceptable? To me it definitely is. Of course it's "hidden" by the panels, but still, I am paying an extreme premium on this thing:

Here is the "Quiet Drain 3" Really low quality lid: Other shots of it:

Yeah, the panels will definitely hide it, but for the amount of money I paid for the absolute stand, you would think it would be WAY better. Materials seems just fine, but the attention to detail sucks. I would say the stand is probably worth 1/3 of what I paid for. For this price I could...

It's funny because the Quiet Drain doesn't look anything like the Quiet Drain II. I emailed ELOS about it and they said: "Congratulations, you have the Quiet Drain III". What? It didn't say that anywhere, and it seems almost like an excuse for getting the 8+ year old Quiet Drain I. I told them...

I decided to put the stand together tonight. Wow it was a pain. The metal frame just doesn’t line up well, one thread was tapped badly, and the instructions were basically nonexistent. The paint on the metal was bubbled and sparse in places. Also plenty of nicks. I’m still trying to...

it looks like I should run something about 342gph for ich through the AquaUV 57 watt.