Random thoughts:
Did you rinse the rock ahead of time?
I honestly didn't rinse it off. It seemd dry and clean for the most part. I thought about rinsing it but didn't wanna risk adding anything from tap water to tank.
Including did you by any chance rinse teh rock right before adding? If rinsed, was it RO or fresh or salt?
Neither
How much rock did you remove?
I took out the small to medium size structures probably 30 lbs total.
Everything taken out was man made completely epoxy covered rock, that was 100% water proof equal to being like pvc. Zero % porous if that makes it more plain.
Enough to majorly change the overall surface area?
I had to add an addtional 15gallon of salter water taken from frag tank system that was already heated, and just mixed a few days proir to cover the rocks.
Did you stir up the sand bed while doing these changes? If so, how deep is the sand bed and how old? Sand bed stir up + reduction in bacteria population + high bio load could cause weirdness.
No sand this tank had tons crushed coral. For substrate. Maybe your question here points out another potential issue. I didn't add any of the crushed coral from the 65gallon tank to the stock tank. It could have in fact been the main bio filter for the 65gallon tank. Threre was about 20 lbs of live rock in the sump that I added to the stock tank as well.
Are you sure inverts weren't affected?
None seemed to ve effected I took out all that I could find and put them into the frag tank. After I saw the ammonia was high. I didn't find any dead crabs or snails. Not claiming there couldn't have been any I saw no dead ones when I took the rocks out to remove fish.
No previous fish issues?
So to be more detailed.
Melanurus wrasse
1 pj cardinal
Lemon peel angel
Tomini tang.
I had these fish since I started the 65gallon tank several months no issues.
3 pj cardinals
Yellow foxface fish all came from same bar memeber who had them for several years.
Purple tang was picked up at the last frag swap.
The fish were added to the 65gallon tank they were all fine than I added them to the stock tank.
The magnificant foxface fish also came from the same member however I got it about 2 -3 days later. After I had already had stock tank going for about a week. So it never went into the 65gallon tank.
You'd mentioned a lot of work you're doing to your place, including with all the tanks going on and painting and possibly floor rip ups.
Not possible they were in my garage the stock tank. Alll this work has happened only recently. And no work preformed in the garage at all. Fish were dead and floors were ripped up last night. Painting the day before.
How were you storing this rock? Was it in a location that would've been near the other work you were doing, such that other stuff could've gotten on it and unfortunately made it into the tank?
Rock was in a table in my garage. Never entered house and nothing could have been added to it.
How closely to the time of the die off was the work you're doing in the house/area to the tank? If you pretend for a minute that it was for sure not the rock change, what else could've occurred?
Totally different areas. I don't know lack of biological filtration could have really played a part. The 65gallon tank killed most of my hammers I put in it. You can check out that journal to see the last issues I had with that tank. Only 4 hammers are still alive out of 20 plus I put in that tank.
Are you sure there's no other weird things going on in the tank, eg while doing the rock change did you while-you're-at-it change anything else like filters or clean something or maybe a heater got bumped and a current is making it into the tank and ...?
Nothing was changed running a inkbird in the tank. And had a protein skimmer running on it at alm times.
It wasn't mentioned. However there was at least 80-100 lbs of live rock that was also in the stock tank from the 210gallon tank. That i added the 20/25 lbs of live rock from the 65gallon tank to. In addtion to those 3 smaller crappy rock structures I took out. What was taken out was less than 20 precent of what was in the stock tank.
The dry rock I added was probably 4 times the amount I took out hence having to add 15 extra gallons of saltwater to cover them.
@richiev
Did you rinse the rock ahead of time?
I honestly didn't rinse it off. It seemd dry and clean for the most part. I thought about rinsing it but didn't wanna risk adding anything from tap water to tank.
Including did you by any chance rinse teh rock right before adding? If rinsed, was it RO or fresh or salt?
Neither
How much rock did you remove?
I took out the small to medium size structures probably 30 lbs total.
Everything taken out was man made completely epoxy covered rock, that was 100% water proof equal to being like pvc. Zero % porous if that makes it more plain.
Enough to majorly change the overall surface area?
I had to add an addtional 15gallon of salter water taken from frag tank system that was already heated, and just mixed a few days proir to cover the rocks.
Did you stir up the sand bed while doing these changes? If so, how deep is the sand bed and how old? Sand bed stir up + reduction in bacteria population + high bio load could cause weirdness.
No sand this tank had tons crushed coral. For substrate. Maybe your question here points out another potential issue. I didn't add any of the crushed coral from the 65gallon tank to the stock tank. It could have in fact been the main bio filter for the 65gallon tank. Threre was about 20 lbs of live rock in the sump that I added to the stock tank as well.
Are you sure inverts weren't affected?
None seemed to ve effected I took out all that I could find and put them into the frag tank. After I saw the ammonia was high. I didn't find any dead crabs or snails. Not claiming there couldn't have been any I saw no dead ones when I took the rocks out to remove fish.
No previous fish issues?
So to be more detailed.
Melanurus wrasse
1 pj cardinal
Lemon peel angel
Tomini tang.
I had these fish since I started the 65gallon tank several months no issues.
3 pj cardinals
Yellow foxface fish all came from same bar memeber who had them for several years.
Purple tang was picked up at the last frag swap.
The fish were added to the 65gallon tank they were all fine than I added them to the stock tank.
The magnificant foxface fish also came from the same member however I got it about 2 -3 days later. After I had already had stock tank going for about a week. So it never went into the 65gallon tank.
You'd mentioned a lot of work you're doing to your place, including with all the tanks going on and painting and possibly floor rip ups.
Not possible they were in my garage the stock tank. Alll this work has happened only recently. And no work preformed in the garage at all. Fish were dead and floors were ripped up last night. Painting the day before.
How were you storing this rock? Was it in a location that would've been near the other work you were doing, such that other stuff could've gotten on it and unfortunately made it into the tank?
Rock was in a table in my garage. Never entered house and nothing could have been added to it.
How closely to the time of the die off was the work you're doing in the house/area to the tank? If you pretend for a minute that it was for sure not the rock change, what else could've occurred?
Totally different areas. I don't know lack of biological filtration could have really played a part. The 65gallon tank killed most of my hammers I put in it. You can check out that journal to see the last issues I had with that tank. Only 4 hammers are still alive out of 20 plus I put in that tank.
Are you sure there's no other weird things going on in the tank, eg while doing the rock change did you while-you're-at-it change anything else like filters or clean something or maybe a heater got bumped and a current is making it into the tank and ...?
Nothing was changed running a inkbird in the tank. And had a protein skimmer running on it at alm times.
It wasn't mentioned. However there was at least 80-100 lbs of live rock that was also in the stock tank from the 210gallon tank. That i added the 20/25 lbs of live rock from the 65gallon tank to. In addtion to those 3 smaller crappy rock structures I took out. What was taken out was less than 20 precent of what was in the stock tank.
The dry rock I added was probably 4 times the amount I took out hence having to add 15 extra gallons of saltwater to cover them.
@richiev