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Cycling your reef tank!

This thread contains all the information presented at the BAR New Hobbyist workshop on Saturday, April 12, 2014. Feel free to chime in with questions and your experiences.

Why do we need to cycle? What does it mean to cycle?

All living organisms produce ammonia as a waste product from consuming food. Levels of ammonia can quickly become toxic in our aquariums as animal waste builds up. Even low levels can cause undue stress to animals such as coral or fish. This is why it is so important to cycle your aquarium -- you want to ensure that the animals in your care are provided with a clean, safe environment where they can thrive and give you many years of enjoyment.

Aquarium+Cycling.png


The diagram above illustrates the nitrogen cycle as it pertains to our aquariums (Wikipedia has a wealth of information on the nitrogen cycle). In the ocean, ammonia produced by animals is converted by various types of bacteria into progressively less harmful nitrogen-based substances. The bacteria that do this are plentiful in the ocean. However, unlike the ocean, our aquariums contain a small volume of water, and often have little to no beneficial bacteria when we set them up.

Getting the tank ready
Before you cycle your tank, you have to set it up! :) The other BAR New Hobbyist stations will cover important topics such as RO/DI water, salt mix, salinity, etc. The first step to setting up your new tank and preparing for a cycle is to ensure the tank is set up, filled with clean fresh saltwater, and your heater is running.

Before adding any salt water to your tank, test your saltwater for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. This is a good time to verify that your salt mix is good, and that your reverse osmosis unit is operating correctly. If you opt to use conditioned tap water, there is a chance that the tap water already has ammonia, nitrite or nitrate in it, so its good to know this before starting the cycle.

Alright, lets cycle the tank!
In order to cycle your tank, you need:
  1. A source of ammonia - required to feed the bacteria and help the bacteria population grow.
  2. A source of bacteria - required to establish the bacteria population.
  3. An ammonia, nitrite and nitrate test kit to measure levels - required to see where in the cycle process you are.
  4. Patience. :) - this will be required for any adventures in marine aquarium keeping.
You will notice something absent from this list -- a fish. It is a common misconception that the best way to cycle an aquarium is to set it up with a "hardy starter" fish that will provide the bacteria and ammonia required to get the cycle going. Using a fish to start the cycle, even an inexpensive or "hardy" one is not a good idea. As the levels fluctuate during the cycle, the fish will be stressed and face a high chance of dying, or falling ill to a disease -- neither are great options for a new tank.

This discussion assumes you want to cycle the tank WITHOUT using a fish. The next few paragraphs discuss where we can get the ammonia and bacteria to cycle a tank.

If you are starting a tank using live rock (rock that has been in another aquarium, is from the ocean, or is aquacultured) or live sand you already have a source of bacteria which can be used to cycle the tank. Alternatively if you start with dead rock (ie dry base rock) and dry sand you can get a scoop of sand from another aquarist's tank. Both of these are great sources for bacteria to help get the cycle started.

For a source of ammonia, pure 10% ammonia is an excellent choice. If you got ammonia at the BAR New Aquarist workshop, you can use that. If you need to buy more, get “Janitorial Strength Ammonia” from Ace Hardware. This brand is free of dyes, foaming agents, etc. You know an ammonia source is pure if when you shake the bottle it does not foam.

An alternative to using ammonia is to use a FRESH raw shrimp purchased from the grocery store. Putting this in your newly set up tank will provide some bacteria to start the cycle (though a sand sample or live rock are still a good idea), and most importantly as the shrimp rots, a steady source of ammonia.

If you decide to cycle your tank using 10% ammonia, the table below shows approximately how much ammonia must be added to your aquarium to achieve 3 ppm (3 ppm refers to the CONCENTRATION of ammonia in the tank) of ammonia, which is sufficient to start a cycle.

As a rule of thumb, it is best to wait until ammonia and nitrites have both dropped to zero before adding fish. Wait until nitrates are low or undetectable before adding coral. This also gives the tank time to mature.

The following graph illustrates how the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels will change over the course of the cycle. It can take upwards of 20-30 days for a tank to fully cycle. Note: The levels and times are not intended to be accurate and are for illustration purposes only.
Volume (US Gallons)Ammonia Required (mL)
10.11
50.57
101.14
202.27
303.41
404.54
505.68
606.81
707.95
809.08
9010.22
10011.36
15017.03
20022.71
25028.39
30034.07
35039.75
40045.42
45051.10


I've added ammonia, what now?
If you've added ammonia, use your ammonia test kit to check the ammonia level and adjust if needed. If you started with a raw shrimp, you can wait a week before testing the ammonia. It will take some time before the shrimp starts to rot and the appropriate ammonia levels are achieved.

You'll notice when you look at your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate test kits that they all tell you the concentration of each in ppm (or mg/mL). These measurements are telling you the concentration of ammonia, nitrite or nitrate in your tank. For those not familiar with chemistry, it is important to note that concentration is not a measurement of how much of something there is in your tank total, but a measurement of how much of something is in a fixed volume of water.

If you were to measure ammonia, nitrite and nitrate every day and graph the concentrations of them, you might see a graph similar to this:
image.png


The important thing to note is that as bacteria establishes to convert ammonia to nitrite, for example, you will start to see the ammonia levels drop, while nitrite levels will increase. Similarly as bacteria establishes to convert nitrite to nitrate, the nitrite levels will drop while the nitrate levels will increase. Finally, when bacteria to convert nitrate into atmospheric nitrogen establishes, the nitrate levels will drop.

If you started your cycle by adding ammonia, you'll of course have skipped the first few days of the graph where the ammonia level is increasing slowly.

Once you have started the cycle, every second day (or every day if you desire), measure the ammonia in your tank and record it. To start there is no need to measure nitrite and nitrate (because there are none) -- though feel free to measure them if you want to get more familiar with your test kits.

Once you start seeing the ammonia drop, its time to start testing nitrite as well.

Once you start to see nitrite, every other day you can add a little bit more ammonia to bring back the ammonia level to the level you started at (3ppm). This helps ensure you are actively feeding the bacteria to sustain its population.

Once you start to see nitrite dropping, its time to start testing for nitrate.

Once nitrite drops to almost zero and your ammonia additions are consumed within approximately 24-48 hours, your cycle is ALMOST done.

When nitrite is zero, it is safe to start by adding your first fish. This this point its still important to keep measuring Keep an eye on the levels every other day as the new fish adjusts. In the unlikely event you detect a spike in ammonia, a 50% water change should be performed every day to help get the ammonia levels back down below 0.05ppm.

Provided you have sufficient live rock and sand, the nitrates should start to drop. Once they reach near 0 you can begin considering your first coral addition

The key throughout this process is to have patience. With each new fish, coral or invertebrate addition you should monitor your levels to ensure the aquarium adjusts its bacterial carrying capacity appropriately.

Some important notes:
  • A death of a fish, coral, or other creature can cause a spike in ammonia and a new mini-cycle to start. If you detect ammonia at any point, aim to perform large 50% water changes daily to bring the levels down and protect the tank inhabitants.

  • Over-feeding can also cause a spike in ammonia levels.
What can go wrong?

If your cycle seems to have stopped progressing, here are some common problems:
  1. Not having a sufficient “starter bacteria” load. Try getting some more sand or filter material from an established tank.

  2. If any of ammonia, nitrite or nitrate gets too high. If you see a lack of progress, a high reading of one of these could cause the cycle to stall. Perform 50% water changes daily to help bring the levels down (ammonia < 5ppm, nitrite < 10ppm, nitrate < 20ppm) and see if the cycle resumes itself.
In any case, feel free to post questions/comments here. Share and help others!
 
If you do regular significant sized water changes, then nothing builds up!
The solution to pollution is dilution
Learn it, live it, love it!
Oh yea, and I don't test anything
 
If you do regular significant sized water changes, then nothing builds up!
The solution to pollution is dilution
Learn it, live it, love it!
Oh yea, and I don't test anything

I suppose that is one way to do it. I'm far too lazy to change water that often. Maybe if I lived on the ocean I would... Just set up a pipe to constantly bring in new water.

Even with massive water changes unless you're doing them constantly at first, you're going to get some amount of ammonia build up between changes which can be harmful for your tank inhabitants. It if you did them frequently enough you'd still get a cycle I imagine, just a long one...


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What are people maintenance schedules for sand beds? Bare bottoms? Trying to decide which way to go, any advice is greatly appreciated.

I change one bucket of water whenever I remember to, then I create another bucket of salt mix and forget it for weeks. I'll occasionally clean out the skimmer.

I have some really big fish and currently not much corals, but 180G of water and live rock, plus sump and skimmer. Plus I'm chintzy on feeding.

V
 
Speaking of cycling -- I'll be upgrading tanks this weekend. 75 gallon to a 120 gallon. I'll use new sand, but am curious how much of the old water to use. One of the concerns with the old tank is it has always had a lot of particulate matter floating in the water column. I have never been able to completely eliminate it and no one has been able to identify it. So -- less is more in this case, but I don't want to worry about the health of the corals when I transfer. Any suggestions?
 
I used 25% old water.

But I had the new tank setup, put in the 25% old water + new water and some rocks from the old tank and let it run for a week or so before moving all the rest of the rock and livestock over the next week.
 
Hey everyone, I'm new to the forum so please bear with me if this is answered somewhere else. I have been looking for weeks and can not find the answer, so here it is. I set up a 120 gallon tall tank about the first of the year ( perhaps late December 2017). I have a 40 g sump, coral vue ac20287 octopus skimmer, coral base rock, live sand and seeder rock, plus filter media from my 75g in the sump all on startup. I have been testing about once a week and have not seen any spikes, ammonia, nitrite etc. Is it possible that my tank is cycled since levels are zeroed now or more importantly what can i do now?
 
You can test by dosing the tank with ammonium chloride to 2ppm. If it is converted to nitrates in 24 hours then it's cycled. If it's not cycled then the ammonium chloride will start the cycle.

The other factor could be your test kit. What brand are you using? How old is it? Are you following the directions exactly?
 
If you do regular significant sized water changes, then nothing builds up!
The solution to pollution is dilution
Learn it, live it, love it!
Oh yea, and I don't test anything

This is fine, but not always practical. I do 40 gallon (ie 44 gallon Rubbermaid Brute filled near to full) water changes every ... whenever. It takes a full bag of salt and my RO has to run for a day and a half to two days to fill (even though it's a 75 GPD unit, it's not really 75 GPD, probably due to old membrane. Even then 40 gallons in my 180+sump is still only about 20 percent.

On a < 30 gallon, yes, water changes work well. Bigger tanks will of course pollute more slowly unless packed to the gills with fish, fed daily.

The tank will always cycle, you can't avoid it...might as well provide enough rock and sand to get it done right.


V
 
What are people maintenance schedules for sand beds? Bare bottoms? Trying to decide which way to go, any advice is greatly appreciated.


Is started bare bottom (insert joke here), but I hated the look of it and I wanted sand creatures. So I retroactively dumped in some sand. I wish I had actually dumped enough in to get a 3 inch sandbed doing as I've been struggling with nitrates for a long time...to the point that I left the tank on autopilot for a long long time as a fish tank, with all my frags in a smaller qt tank (for 2 years).

My old 58 had no such issues and grew everything (especially aiptasia) and it had a DSB. Some people say that it eventually "goes rotten". I had that tank running for 10 years and not rottenness occurred. When I moved it, then yeah, stirring up the sand was disgusting. However, I would still highly recommend a DSB. Others will differ in this opinion.

Maintenance schedule for sand was "ignore it".

V
 
This thread contains all the information presented at the BAR New Hobbyist workshop on Saturday, April 12, 2014. Feel free to chime in with questions and your experiences.

Why do we need to cycle? What does it mean to cycle?

All living organisms produce ammonia as a waste product from consuming food. Levels of ammonia can quickly become toxic in our aquariums as animal waste builds up. Even low levels can cause undue stress to animals such as coral or fish. This is why it is so important to cycle your aquarium -- you want to ensure that the animals in your care are provided with a clean, safe environment where they can thrive and give you many years of enjoyment.

Aquarium+Cycling.png


The diagram above illustrates the nitrogen cycle as it pertains to our aquariums (Wikipedia has a wealth of information on the nitrogen cycle). In the ocean, ammonia produced by animals is converted by various types of bacteria into progressively less harmful nitrogen-based substances. The bacteria that do this are plentiful in the ocean. However, unlike the ocean, our aquariums contain a small volume of water, and often have little to no beneficial bacteria when we set them up.

Getting the tank ready
Before you cycle your tank, you have to set it up! :) The other BAR New Hobbyist stations will cover important topics such as RO/DI water, salt mix, salinity, etc. The first step to setting up your new tank and preparing for a cycle is to ensure the tank is set up, filled with clean fresh saltwater, and your heater is running.

Before adding any salt water to your tank, test your saltwater for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. This is a good time to verify that your salt mix is good, and that your reverse osmosis unit is operating correctly. If you opt to use conditioned tap water, there is a chance that the tap water already has ammonia, nitrite or nitrate in it, so its good to know this before starting the cycle.

Alright, lets cycle the tank!
In order to cycle your tank, you need:
  1. A source of ammonia - required to feed the bacteria and help the bacteria population grow.
  2. A source of bacteria - required to establish the bacteria population.
  3. An ammonia, nitrite and nitrate test kit to measure levels - required to see where in the cycle process you are.
  4. Patience. :) - this will be required for any adventures in marine aquarium keeping.
You will notice something absent from this list -- a fish. It is a common misconception that the best way to cycle an aquarium is to set it up with a "hardy starter" fish that will provide the bacteria and ammonia required to get the cycle going. Using a fish to start the cycle, even an inexpensive or "hardy" one is not a good idea. As the levels fluctuate during the cycle, the fish will be stressed and face a high chance of dying, or falling ill to a disease -- neither are great options for a new tank.

This discussion assumes you want to cycle the tank WITHOUT using a fish. The next few paragraphs discuss where we can get the ammonia and bacteria to cycle a tank.

If you are starting a tank using live rock (rock that has been in another aquarium, is from the ocean, or is aquacultured) or live sand you already have a source of bacteria which can be used to cycle the tank. Alternatively if you start with dead rock (ie dry base rock) and dry sand you can get a scoop of sand from another aquarist's tank. Both of these are great sources for bacteria to help get the cycle started.

For a source of ammonia, pure 10% ammonia is an excellent choice. If you got ammonia at the BAR New Aquarist workshop, you can use that. If you need to buy more, get “Janitorial Strength Ammonia” from Ace Hardware. This brand is free of dyes, foaming agents, etc. You know an ammonia source is pure if when you shake the bottle it does not foam.

An alternative to using ammonia is to use a FRESH raw shrimp purchased from the grocery store. Putting this in your newly set up tank will provide some bacteria to start the cycle (though a sand sample or live rock are still a good idea), and most importantly as the shrimp rots, a steady source of ammonia.

If you decide to cycle your tank using 10% ammonia, the table below shows approximately how much ammonia must be added to your aquarium to achieve 3 ppm (3 ppm refers to the CONCENTRATION of ammonia in the tank) of ammonia, which is sufficient to start a cycle.

As a rule of thumb, it is best to wait until ammonia and nitrites have both dropped to zero before adding fish. Wait until nitrates are low or undetectable before adding coral. This also gives the tank time to mature.

The following graph illustrates how the ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels will change over the course of the cycle. It can take upwards of 20-30 days for a tank to fully cycle. Note: The levels and times are not intended to be accurate and are for illustration purposes only.
Volume (US Gallons)Ammonia Required (mL)
10.11
50.57
101.14
202.27
303.41
404.54
505.68
606.81
707.95
809.08
9010.22
10011.36
15017.03
20022.71
25028.39
30034.07
35039.75
40045.42
45051.10


I've added ammonia, what now?
If you've added ammonia, use your ammonia test kit to check the ammonia level and adjust if needed. If you started with a raw shrimp, you can wait a week before testing the ammonia. It will take some time before the shrimp starts to rot and the appropriate ammonia levels are achieved.

You'll notice when you look at your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate test kits that they all tell you the concentration of each in ppm (or mg/mL). These measurements are telling you the concentration of ammonia, nitrite or nitrate in your tank. For those not familiar with chemistry, it is important to note that concentration is not a measurement of how much of something there is in your tank total, but a measurement of how much of something is in a fixed volume of water.

If you were to measure ammonia, nitrite and nitrate every day and graph the concentrations of them, you might see a graph similar to this:
image.png


The important thing to note is that as bacteria establishes to convert ammonia to nitrite, for example, you will start to see the ammonia levels drop, while nitrite levels will increase. Similarly as bacteria establishes to convert nitrite to nitrate, the nitrite levels will drop while the nitrate levels will increase. Finally, when bacteria to convert nitrate into atmospheric nitrogen establishes, the nitrate levels will drop.

If you started your cycle by adding ammonia, you'll of course have skipped the first few days of the graph where the ammonia level is increasing slowly.

Once you have started the cycle, every second day (or every day if you desire), measure the ammonia in your tank and record it. To start there is no need to measure nitrite and nitrate (because there are none) -- though feel free to measure them if you want to get more familiar with your test kits.

Once you start seeing the ammonia drop, its time to start testing nitrite as well.

Once you start to see nitrite, every other day you can add a little bit more ammonia to bring back the ammonia level to the level you started at (3ppm). This helps ensure you are actively feeding the bacteria to sustain its population.

Once you start to see nitrite dropping, its time to start testing for nitrate.

Once nitrite drops to almost zero and your ammonia additions are consumed within approximately 24-48 hours, your cycle is ALMOST done.

When nitrite is zero, it is safe to start by adding your first fish. This this point its still important to keep measuring Keep an eye on the levels every other day as the new fish adjusts. In the unlikely event you detect a spike in ammonia, a 50% water change should be performed every day to help get the ammonia levels back down below 0.05ppm.

Provided you have sufficient live rock and sand, the nitrates should start to drop. Once they reach near 0 you can begin considering your first coral addition

The key throughout this process is to have patience. With each new fish, coral or invertebrate addition you should monitor your levels to ensure the aquarium adjusts its bacterial carrying capacity appropriately.

Some important notes:
  • A death of a fish, coral, or other creature can cause a spike in ammonia and a new mini-cycle to start. If you detect ammonia at any point, aim to perform large 50% water changes daily to bring the levels down and protect the tank inhabitants.

  • Over-feeding can also cause a spike in ammonia levels.
What can go wrong?

If your cycle seems to have stopped progressing, here are some common problems:
  1. Not having a sufficient “starter bacteria” load. Try getting some more sand or filter material from an established tank.

  2. If any of ammonia, nitrite or nitrate gets too high. If you see a lack of progress, a high reading of one of these could cause the cycle to stall. Perform 50% water changes daily to help bring the levels down (ammonia < 5ppm, nitrite < 10ppm, nitrate < 20ppm) and see if the cycle resumes itself.
In any case, feel free to post questions/comments here. Share and help others!
OK I need help. I'm cycling the tank and on day 6.
I added Brightwell Microbacter XLM starter. 6 capfuls for ~24 gallons.
Dry rock with 10 lbs of "Live Aragonite"
Threw in a raw shrimp....ugh regretting that.
Red see Pro salt @ 35PPM'
Temp 78
No lights
Good flow
Shrimp has dissolved.
I put the sock back in for 1/3 hour to get out the shrimp chunks. It immediately clogged and had a gelatinous mess on it.
Tank is also very cloudy.
Ammonia - 0 PPM
Nitrites - 0 PPM
Nitrates - 0 PPM

Thinking of doing the following:
Upping the temp to 84
Adding more Microbactor
Adding more gravel for the bacteria to grow in.
Or....start over using Microbacter start ( liquid ammonia)

Am I just too impatient? Never heard that before....lol
Any help is appreciated.
 
OK I need help. I'm cycling the tank and on day 6.
I added Brightwell Microbacter XLM starter. 6 capfuls for ~24 gallons.
Dry rock with 10 lbs of "Live Aragonite"
Threw in a raw shrimp....ugh regretting that.
Red see Pro salt @ 35PPM'
Temp 78
No lights
Good flow
Shrimp has dissolved.
I put the sock back in for 1/3 hour to get out the shrimp chunks. It immediately clogged and had a gelatinous mess on it.
Tank is also very cloudy.
Ammonia - 0 PPM
Nitrites - 0 PPM
Nitrates - 0 PPM

Thinking of doing the following:
Upping the temp to 84
Adding more Microbactor
Adding more gravel for the bacteria to grow in.
Or....start over using Microbacter start ( liquid ammonia)

Am I just too impatient? Never heard that before....lol
Any help is appreciated.
I find it surprising that you have no nutrients at all - would've expected the shrimp to cause some Ammonia, Nitrite or Nitrate rise. Cloudy tank implies bacterial bloom to me, so I'd just leave it alone and see what happens to your nutrients in the coming week (I'd expect Nitrates to rise soon).

I'd recommend this video for an expert guide and explanation of tank cycling:
 
I find it surprising that you have no nutrients at all - would've expected the shrimp to cause some Ammonia, Nitrite or Nitrate rise. Cloudy tank implies bacterial bloom to me, so I'd just leave it alone and see what happens to your nutrients in the coming week (I'd expect Nitrates to rise soon).

I'd recommend this video for an expert guide and explanation of tank cycling:
Thanks Bolicks!
OK I need help. I'm cycling the tank and on day 6.
I added Brightwell Microbacter XLM starter. 6 capfuls for ~24 gallons.
Dry rock with 10 lbs of "Live Aragonite"
Threw in a raw shrimp....ugh regretting that.
Red see Pro salt @ 35PPM'
Temp 78
No lights
Good flow
Shrimp has dissolved.
I put the sock back in for 1/3 hour to get out the shrimp chunks. It immediately clogged and had a gelatinous mess on it.
Tank is also very cloudy.
Ammonia - 0 PPM
Nitrites - 0 PPM
Nitrates - 0 PPM

Thinking of doing the following:
Upping the temp to 84
Adding more Microbactor
Adding more gravel for the bacteria to grow in.
Or....start over using Microbacter start ( liquid ammonia)

Am I just too impatient? Never heard that before....lol
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks for the responses.
I took a brush to the sides of the bottle of Microbactoer to release any bacteria hanging on the walls, shook it up gently, then put two more capfuls in the tank.
I added a live rock as well....now waiting patiently as best I can.
Broke my own rules of one change at a time.....ugh.
 
The tank cleared up on day 9 and left a tough calcium deposit on the glass.
I'm suspecting its from the dry rock, recycled from my old tank, that I left in the citric acid for a bit too long.
I'm still getting zero's across the board on cycling parameters so I don't think it's cycled. Still baffled I never measured any ammonia after a rotten shrimp.
I'm going to add a little Microbactor start (ammonia) and see if it clears up over the next few days.
6-28-21.jpg
 
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