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Flow and water clarity

Live phyto can reproduce and turn your water into anything from slightly hazy/white to green. I had phytoplankton in my tank and ended up having to buy a drop-in UV sterilizer to get rid of it. At first I thought I had just slightly unclear water (it doesn’t turn your water green unless you have enough nutrients) so could not pin down what was going on. Totally stripped my tank of N&P meanwhile and caused acros to get really pale and not grow well. I’m not sure live phyto is so superior to just scraping your glass anyway.
 
Chromis said:
Live phyto can reproduce and turn your water into anything from slightly hazy/white to green. I had phytoplankton in my tank and ended up having to buy a drop-in UV sterilizer to get rid of it. At first I thought I had just slightly unclear water (it doesn’t turn your water green unless you have enough nutrients) so could not pin down what was going on. Totally stripped my tank of N&P meanwhile and caused acros to get really pale and not grow well. I’m not sure live phyto is so superior to just scraping your glass anyway.
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Liz just to make sure am not confusing myself, are we talking about the phytofeast (live) product?

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MolaMola said:
Based on two recent threads I have been thinking about bacteria and nutrients a lot. I have thought for a long time that what is missing from tank water is all the plankton in the water column found in the ocean. I thought we should be having water flow thru a live phyto reactor or something to keep it rich with plankton, which would provide foundation of healthy food web/nitrogen cycle. But the ocean does not have low pressure pumps that I expect would make the plankton burst and die and we have no way to deal with the plankton die off. Is this why live phyto is not a great idea?
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My main DT tank glows yellow with actinics, by products of lots of prior phytoplankton dosing 2 years back.... and still present though I stopped just as far back.

On brighter side, i can keep NPS sea life easily. And no probs with mixed reef.

Part of it is I run a high nitrient system and don't use filter socks.

Down side is that it is a high nutrient system so sometimes things can swing unexpectedly.
 
@NanoCrazed maybe the key is you need a high nutrient system (and lots of willing filter feeders) to support live phyto. Still, not sure I want to see the phyto glowing in the water column when I’m trying to appreciate the neon glow from my corals under blue light ;)

@ofzakaria I can’t be sure where my greenwater culture came from because there wasn’t a clear correlation between adding anything resulting in green water. The only thing unique about the particular system was it didn’t have sponges like my display tank. By the time I added sponges to it, the sponges were not able to control the critical mass phyto bloom so I had to treat it with UV.
 
Chromis said:
@NanoCrazed maybe the key is you need a high nutrient system (and lots of willing filter feeders) to support live phyto. Still, not sure I want to see the phyto glowing in the water column when I’m trying to appreciate the neon glow from my corals under blue light ;)

@ofzakaria I can’t be sure where my greenwater culture came from because there wasn’t a clear correlation between adding anything resulting in green water. The only thing unique about the particular system was it didn’t have sponges like my display tank. By the time I added sponges to it, the sponges were not able to control the critical mass phyto bloom so I had to treat it with UV.
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But are we talking about phytofeast(live)?

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NanoCrazed said:
The phytoplankton in my system makes my water phosphorescent under actinic
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Oh really..wow I never heared of that nither do I think I have noticed it. I dosed it just cause I thought it's more effective than the dead phytofeast, or so they claimed ha ha

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@ofzakaria -- picture says a thousand words... :) (ignore the GHA and mess... well overdue maintenance on this tank...) . check out that beautiful glow... with day lights, you don't notice it... but when you flip over to actinics there it is. the bright side, I have a tons of tisbe pods the breed in the tank continuously. Can probably support hordes of dragonets without batting an eye.

@Chromis -- you mean you don't enjoy my version of the yule log?

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NanoCrazed said:
@ofzakaria -- picture says a thousand words... :) (ignore the GHA and mess... well overdue maintenance on this tank...) . check out that beautiful glow... with day lights, you don't notice it... but when you flip over to actinics there it is. the bright side, I have a tons of tisbe pods the breed in the tank continuously. Can probably support hordes of dragonets without batting an eye.

@Chromis -- you mean you don't enjoy my version of the yule log?

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Wow man this really is glowing. I dosed this thing for a year, never noticed the glow...


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Yeh am not using it any more. Did so for a while without issues and I do not have uv..but maybe it was not the product you are referring to

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