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Triton method discussion

tribbitt said:
Kind of feel like half these methods are the same, just named differently so you buy from a particular company

It boils down to “test and add whatever is missing” which is hardly a secret method imo
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That’s sorta how I’m seeing it. Plus imo I’d never start dosing validium and bromide for example cause we really don’t have solid data to what it’s even in there for. Idk, I was all about triton and I really wanna believe in thier system. I def think it works cause we have the success proven but how many tanks is it working for vs. failing tanks that people won’t post or voice.
 
Whoever thinks that trace element dosing and ICP testing do not have significant benefits is either a (over) confident coral whisperer, or is willing to leave a lot of potential progress (and coral health) on the table.

I sometimes feel this is being disregarded/diminished as it does require some work to dial them in at the beginning, so finding arguments to make it less impactful seems easier to do.

I do not believe trace elements dosing and ICP require no or less water change, but opinions vary.

There could be tanks that suffer from this method not because the tank is being dialed properly but due to misuse of the supplementation, potentially overdosing certain elements by not following directions. I do not think there is any tank out there that failed because of properly dialed-in traces, but a lot of them fail or run less well where traces are not dialed in.

Triton, Tropic Marin, and of course Fauna Marin are the only supplementation provider I would use, and for ICP, Triton and Fauna Marin only. Those can be trusted - but they will still make mistake in isolated instances and ICP testing overall is not perfect, but a great tool for those who keep an open mind.
 
JVU said:
It’s easy to say things are obvious or derivative years later after success and copycats. Triton started in 2008, was revolutionarily different from everything else, and not at all obvious.
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I guess the Triton method added the icp tests to adjust specific elements? Balling back in the 90's seems to be onto the same idea. I bet it was theorized even before then.

"The Balling method is a popular way to maintain stable water parameters in a reef aquarium. It was developed in the 1990s by Hans-Werner Balling. It is based on running the aquarium in such a way that parameters such as carbonate hardness (KH), calcium (Ca) and magnesium (Mg) and trace element levels are constantly maintained at the same level. This is done through micro-dosing of special solutions that continuously replenish the consumed macronutrients. "
 
H2OPlayar said:
I guess the Triton method added the icp tests to adjust specific elements? Balling back in the 90's seems to be onto the same idea. I bet it was theorized even before then.

"The Balling method is a popular way to maintain stable water parameters in a reef aquarium. It was developed in the 1990s by Hans-Werner Balling. It is based on running the aquarium in such a way that parameters such as carbonate hardness (KH), calcium (Ca) and magnesium (Mg) and trace element levels are constantly maintained at the same level. This is done through micro-dosing of special solutions that continuously replenish the consumed macronutrients. "
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The main innovation of the Balling method was to dose with proportions that took into account that NaCl is produced when Alk and Ca are consumed. Before that (and still for many methods) dosing would lead to NaCl (salinity) rising the more you dose and consume Alk and Ca. As you dilute back down to target, you also dilute everything else besides the Na and Cl, which can lead to deficiencies. So Balling also doses NaCl-free major, minor, and trace elements to compensate, they call this “sodium chloride free salt”. Triton did use this advancement in their additives, so they are similar in that way.
 
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