I always thought he was. Hes always done BAR discounts and he has his own sub forumI think its important to remember that Clearwater is NOT a sponsor or a "partner" of the club. Ed has never been a supporting member.
When we announce the upcoming meetings and invite everyone to attend, we want to be able to Feature it so more people will see it. Because of a quirk of how the site is set up, that means we need to put those announcements in the Events & Annoucements section.Hey everyone,
I’m a little embarrassed to admit this, but I couldn’t find any mention of the BOD meetings under Club Business. I spent over an hour looking and came up empty.
I finally had to use ChatGPT to locate them — turns out, they’re actually listed under Events & Announcements.
I’d consider myself pretty tech-savvy, so if it took me that long to find, others might be missing it too.
We all understand they are volunteers and that DOES NOT MATTER. My input Does not need to be expressed at a meeting to be heard and takin serious. I’m expressing it here in a club I’ve payed my dues to be apart of.WIthout them the club would be over and done. Seriously.
The BOD is what makes the club happen, and they do it on their own time, for free, with constant criticism.
If anyone wants to really be heard, attend BOD meetings and be heard. It's pretty straighforward.
I have no idea if you are joking or not, so I have node if I should reply or not.We all understand they are volunteers and that DOES NOT MATTER. My input Does not need to be expressed at a meeting to be heard and takin serious
Still just pilling on rich just wish you weren’t part of the boys club now we’re just circling back to points that are not being said. I do not care that you or anyone else was a volunteer that does not matter stop being defensive and be positive and objective instead of again coming the defend the boys club!
I’m gonna be quiet now. All I have to say tho. Is Dang. That’s harsh man. Maybe I’m reading this wrong, it’s getting brutal. Please stop. Rich has done and continues to guild us with his knowledge and wisdom.We all understand they are volunteers and that DOES NOT MATTER. My input Does not need to be expressed at a meeting to be heard and takin serious
Still just pilling on rich just wish you weren’t part of the boys club now we’re just circling back to points that are not being said. I do not care that you or anyone else was a volunteer that does not matter stop being defensive and be positive and objective instead of again coming the defend the boys club!
Please respond.I have no idea if you are joking or not, so I have node if I should reply or not.
What’s brutal will? Truth hurts your guys feelings then take off the BOD hat and leave the group like you guys like to say to everyone else.I’m gonna be quiet now. All I have to say tho. Is Dang. That’s harsh man. Maybe I’m reading this wrong, it’s getting brutal. Please stop.
If you feel so strongly about BOD. Please join BOD and advocate some changes.
Well. I have seen that you have contributed very much over the years that I have been on here. I appreciate you.Please respond.
What’s brutal will? Truth hurts your guys feelings then take off the BOD hat and leave the group like you guys like to say to everyone else.
This going back to the simple fact titles and the little bit of power can corrupt.
Sure it does. The aren't getting paid, nor are they getting benefits for doing what they do. They certainly don't need to be taken to task for minor stuff. If no one volunteers because club members are coming across agro, no club. The end.We all understand they are volunteers and that DOES NOT MATTER.
I didn't say it did. If you REALLY want to be heard, attend a BOD meeting. Your input is still heard if you don't, you just have no idea about it, and have no idea why it was or wasn't acted upon.My input Does not need to be expressed at a meeting to be heard and takin serious.
And you are being heard. I am unsure what you want - a custom collagraphy note addressing all of your concerns? If you want to impact the direction of the club, don't potshot, go to a meeting and help (and understand the realities of running a club like this).I’m expressing it here in a club I’ve payed my dues to be apart of.
What? I though we were all just talking? Didn't you write a whole thing about how that is what you are/were doing?Still just pilling on rich
Now? I helped start this club. I am also not a member of the BOD, so I am just talking about what I find interesting. If you don't like it, put me on ignore.just wish you weren’t part of the boys club now
No idea what that means - but if I get your gist, you also are circling back over and over.we’re just circling back to points that are not being said.
This is just kind of entiled and awful, but I am sure you didn't mean it that way, though it did come across like you meant it, so maybe I should put you on ignore.I do not care that you or anyone else was a volunteer that does not matter stop being defensive and be positive and objective instead of again coming the defend the boys club!
Since you asked, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt once more
Sure it does. The aren't getting paid, nor are they getting benefits for doing what they do. They certainly don't need to be taken to task for minor stuff. If no one volunteers because club members are coming across agro, no club. The end.
I didn't say it did. If you REALLY want to be heard, attend a BOD meeting. Your input is still heard if you don't, you just have no idea about it, and have no idea why it was or wasn't acted upon.
And you are being heard. I am unsure what you want - a custom collagraphy note addressing all of your concerns? If you want to impact the direction of the club, don't potshot, go to a meeting and help (and understand the realities of running a club like this).
What? I though we were all just talking? Didn't you write a whole thing about how that is what you are/were doing?
Now? I helped start this club. I am also not a member of the BOD, so I am just talking about what I find interesting. If you don't like it, put me on ignore.
No idea what that means - but if I get your gist, you also are circling back over and over.
This is just kind of entiled and awful, but I am sure you didn't mean it that way, though it did come across like you meant it, so maybe I should put you on ignore.
When I refer to the boys club it’s based on the willful arrogance some members have due to their title within the club. I appreciate you to Will and all the BODWell. I have seen that you have contributed very much over the years that I have been on here. I appreciate you.
Yes. I will be stepping down from BOD at the end of this year also. So yeah. I’m taking off the BOD hat as you call it. It’s funny that you call us the boys club because I would include you in that club if there ever was one.
This whole thing that you have argued/ statements has really confused me about you.
Again. I do thank you for all your generous support over the years.
I agree. Please pull the claws away. I’ve always considered you as a valuable member.When I refer to the boys club it’s based on the willful arrogance some members have due to their title within the club. I appreciate you to Will and all the BOD
We won’t get to the places we want to be without all of us expressing our concerns.
This is kind of insane.What’s brutal will? Truth hurts your guys feelings then take off the BOD hat and leave the group like you guys like to say to everyone else.
This going back to the simple fact titles and the little bit of power can corrupt.
keep saying what? You keep misunderstanding so I keep trying to clear it up.You do keep saying it. That’s the typical go to.
This? Yes. If you really want to be heard, attend a meeting.if I really want to be heard attend a meeting.
Maybe it is. They are working hard to make the club go - you seem to be whinging.Which infers their time is more important than mine.
Sure you and others did.No one said they are doing a bad job
Not on its own, but in conjunction with being a member of the BOD, of course it does give you and extra say, along with extra responsibilities. I don't believe I said anything about it being unfair to critize them, nor did I think it. By definition, being on the BOD gives you say that members and not members don't have.The amount of time put in does not give you any extra say in anything here so there is no relevance in continuing to state but theyre are volunteers so its unfair to criticize double standard.
Because you are not a member of the BOD, don't go to meetings, and don't do the work of making the club go.I’m also not getting paid to be so why doesn’t that matter you? Because I don’t have that badge!
For someone that said they don't like it when people read things into their posts that they don't mean, you sure have no problem doing the same thing to me.We all are just talking, I’m quoting you about getting defensive over the BOD like we don’t have the right as a member to criticize them.
I like that! Friends club is what we want. Not a boys club.I agree. Please pull the claws away. I’ve always considered you as a valuable member.
When you say boys club. I think Friends Club is more appropriate. And that’s what we are all supposed to be in this club. It’s supposed to be a big friends club.
Let’s all just chill and go stare at our aquariums for a little while and come back to this conversation a little later please.
WIllful arrogance?When I refer to the boys club it’s based on the willful arrogance some members have due to their title within the club. I appreciate you to Will and all the BOD
You are expressing your concerns. What is the problem?We won’t get to the places we want to be without all of us expressing our concerns.