Experimental BJD Treatment On Gold Torch w/ Cipro
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Coral reefer
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You too huh?
RandyC
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From the aquabiomics team.
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Experimenting with in-tank antibiotic treatments for Brown Jelly Disease
Microbiome testing for aquariums and aquaculture
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Chromis
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I wish anyone had followed up on that thread on brown jelly treatment with before and after tank biome tests. Or had a before/after photo of their tank or otherwise disclosed how many of each type of coral they had so we’d have more confidence this treatment is safe for different corals. Even in the one experiment Aquabiomics ran, he mentioned he needed to follow up with a controlled experiment.
Well, based on my understanding of antibiotics in people, you’re going to lose some of your bacterial diversity every time you use antibiotics but the ones you lose will be the microbes with the lowest counts. So for this to work (take out BJD and not negatively affect good microbes) the BJD bacteria has to be a very small population compared to other bacteria. So hypothetically the best result will be from an isolated dip on the affected corals with a high dose of antibiotics before hitting the entire tank with the lowest effective dose of antibiotics.
The question is then what the lowest effective dose of antibiotics is to eradicate BJD bacteria without removing too many other important bacteria populations since the goal is to maintain or increase microbe diversity.
Well, based on my understanding of antibiotics in people, you’re going to lose some of your bacterial diversity every time you use antibiotics but the ones you lose will be the microbes with the lowest counts. So for this to work (take out BJD and not negatively affect good microbes) the BJD bacteria has to be a very small population compared to other bacteria. So hypothetically the best result will be from an isolated dip on the affected corals with a high dose of antibiotics before hitting the entire tank with the lowest effective dose of antibiotics.
The question is then what the lowest effective dose of antibiotics is to eradicate BJD bacteria without removing too many other important bacteria populations since the goal is to maintain or increase microbe diversity.
wcfish21
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Would this be the same treatment you would use on bleached torch to get its color back?
No. Bleached coral is a result of bailed symbiotic zooxantheallae not bacterial infection. So, as long as you correct the condition(s) and make the environment ideal again, your affected coral can recover from being bleached on its own. Iodine does seems to help bleached corals cope better though.
Update: to my surprised, the Octo spawn made it! This is the first time I’ve successfully save a wall Euphyllia from certain death!
Coral reefer
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Cool!
NanoCrazed
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Should've listened to me earlier!!
Hey Robert, it's Sonny (the guy that always buys the carpet nems)
So far i'm having pretty good success with dosing the display tank with cipro (just as you said you heard one of your customers did). I've used 3 different lots of cipro, in two separate tanks full of nems. I've lost a couple of nems (but i think they were sick for a couple of weeks and already dying). The ones that just recently got sick, started to do better, and now they do not look sick anymore. No more deflating. Although cipro is a broad spectrum antibiotic, it doesnt seem to impact nitrifying bacteria. All my livestock was not impacted and never showed any sign of stress (sexy shrimps, nasarius snails, hermit crabs, tube works, fish, coral, margarita snails, turbo snails, clams, and etc). I dose 250mg/10 gal.
Sonny