Kensington Reefer
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Or try the above recommendation with the peroxide
It’s your call, you’re the bus driver
It’s your call, you’re the bus driver
Help tangs has developed spots
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I agree on this one; hydrogen peroxide was what I used to give the fish more time to live when I encountered that problem. I also did a freshwater dip, which gave me enough time to set up a quarantine tank with copper.Looks like velvet to me given the amount of coverage and powdered sugar appearance.
Marine Velvet Disease
Marine Velvet Disease (Amyloodinium ocellatum) - Updated 6-9-2023 What You Need To Know: * Fast killing parasite capable of wiping out most of your fish in just a matter of days. Sometimes there are survivors, sometimes not. * Dips/baths which can provide temporary relief for velvet (in order...humble.fish
Like what @richiev said, likely all your systems are affected given aerosols, your hands, shared buckets, etc.
Look into the hybrid tank transfer method in that thread with hydrogen peroxide for fast response to give the fish a chance to live.
Gotta be careful with fish from questionable places in the future. Long road ahead to treat this properly.
If you haven’t got hand on a copper test yet you can borrow my Hanna checker. I am in Saratoga.
Note that CopperPower dosage on the bottle is approximately 10% too conservative so I always dose a little higher to ensure I get at close to 2.5 ppm as possible (must ensure level does not drop below 2.0).
You should also post on Reef2Reef or HumbleFish. Those sites have great fish medics folks who can help diagnose and provide advice.
Note that CopperPower dosage on the bottle is approximately 10% too conservative so I always dose a little higher to ensure I get at close to 2.5 ppm as possible (must ensure level does not drop below 2.0).
You should also post on Reef2Reef or HumbleFish. Those sites have great fish medics folks who can help diagnose and provide advice.
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Not looking great, one yellow tang is dead, the other yellow seems seconds away, and the blue tang is struggling.
Talked with @IOnceWasLegend & @Kensington Reefer got their advice.
As welm as stuff sugguested from humblefish. Lowered temp to 72, bucket with new saltwater @.16 verse .25
Last ditch attempt is a freshwater dip. They are so weak i doubt they will survive the night, the yellow maybe not another 20 mins. Let along survive any serious treatment.
Got my son to feed them at 10am. Got home at 4pm very different picture. He said they were swimming everywhere and eating normally at10.
Came home one yellow dead other laying on it's side breathing but not moving. Blue was struggling to swim and breathe.
And before i could heat a gallon of water to freshwater dip the other yellow and blue are dead as well.
So a second total to fish wipe in less than a week. Ugh this sucks.
Talked with @IOnceWasLegend & @Kensington Reefer got their advice.
As welm as stuff sugguested from humblefish. Lowered temp to 72, bucket with new saltwater @.16 verse .25
Last ditch attempt is a freshwater dip. They are so weak i doubt they will survive the night, the yellow maybe not another 20 mins. Let along survive any serious treatment.
Got my son to feed them at 10am. Got home at 4pm very different picture. He said they were swimming everywhere and eating normally at10.
Came home one yellow dead other laying on it's side breathing but not moving. Blue was struggling to swim and breathe.
And before i could heat a gallon of water to freshwater dip the other yellow and blue are dead as well.
So a second total to fish wipe in less than a week. Ugh this sucks.
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JustinBolton
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Ugh that sucks, next time (let’s hope there isn’t a next time) just goto humble fish right away.
Captain Ron
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My thoughts are treat all surviving fish with copper in hospital tanks even if they don't show symptoms. Let all other tanks go fallow for 76+ days at 78 degrees or higher. (Don't forget to occasionally feed the tank.) After the fallow period transfer your fish back into the tanks. Going forward put all new fish through copper treatment and observation before adding them to your tanks, or just buy all future fish from High Tide or any other reputable source that does a proper quarantine of fish. If the new fish can't tolerate copper then tank transfer method or just don't buy the fish. That's my preference anyway. I am not a fan of the "all tanks have ich" school of thought.
Agreed. Putting fish through quarantine is super easy. I have a 10 gallon from Petco which I use to quarantine. The QT provides a chance for new fish to fatten up before they go into the main tank.
We are also lucky to have High Tide Aquatics in the area. Half my fish come from there.
Alexander1312
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I am very sorry about all of these livestock losses. I lost track a bit but was the Foxface the potential host of the disease?
Too hard to tell at this point, but it was the only fish that looked slightly odd. I equated it to stress at the time, how they change colors until comfortable. But there is no way for me to say the events are connected though I suspect it's highly likely given all fish died in 2 different tanks 3 feet apart with in days of each other. Atlas only speculation on my part. Meanwhile all crabs and snails are fine.
Alexander1312
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Where was the fish from?
Stock tank fish
5 were from a memebers tank break down, one from another member, 4 others I had for 7/8months.
The other 3 tangs were recently aquired from group buy and a lfs.
Which LFS? This is probably patient zero.
Rough timeline.
Purple tang picked up feb 22nd swap
February 23rd got a onespot foxface and 2 pj cardinals
February 28th, got magnificant fox face cams come same tank breakdown as other fish. One foxface was in each of the 2 different matching tanks.
I picked up other fish on 23rd, guy giving them away was keeping the magnificant, and changes his mind a few days later when I got it from him on the 28th. For the most part magnificant foxface stayed right infront of the stock tanks powerhead like he loved the direct flow.
March 17th swapped rock structures in stock tank with structures from coral reefer.
I Got the yellow tangs march 21
Aqua plus. However all stock tank fish died on march 22nd,
Got blue tang on the 24th
Yellow tangs and blue tang died today
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Alexander1312
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From Dr reefs?
I would like to partially disagree with this, despite your experience, as it is more of a philosophical point. There is no guarantee on most or all (?) things in life, but you can try to reduce risk. Which often comes as a cost in terms of resources, I.e., money, time, etc.
If you pay for quarantine from a solid vendor - there are only three QT vendors in the US I would trust - and believe your risk is 0, then you would be obviously wrong. But you still dramatically reduce the risk in many cases. If something still happens, it is an act of God, bad luck, and nothing else you could have done.
This hobby is riddled with traps and risks, and navigating them is painful. Risk management is a key success factor IMO, and QT is one key tool in that tool box which should not be downplayed.