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Rygh's 250 gallon - Rev 3

Rostato

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Yay! Bare bottom. Yay!

I’ll never go back to sand I’ll til they come up with a better way to clean it.
 

rygh

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If I were to do it again I would probably use white or sand colored acrylic/pvc/starboard.
Right now it is reflective, which is a bit weird.

I think using black or dark blue might work, but be a bit dark.
 

Flagg37

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Man, I really liked your idea. I wonder if you do a mix of both how it would work out. So if you had just like 1/4 of sand on top. In a glass bottom tank it just looks dumb because it gets moved around and you see the bottom of the tank but in your situation any open patches would look like more sand underneath. I’m curious if the small amount of sand moving around would decrease the amount of algae that can grow on it.
 

rygh

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Man, I really liked your idea. I wonder if you do a mix of both how it would work out. So if you had just like 1/4 of sand on top. In a glass bottom tank it just looks dumb because it gets moved around and you see the bottom of the tank but in your situation any open patches would look like more sand underneath. I’m curious if the small amount of sand moving around would decrease the amount of algae that can grow on it.
I thought about that.
The problem : You would get a small hole in the real sand, which would look OK for a while since fake sand would show.
But then algae would grow in that hole, which might look even worse.

An alternative thought - fake reef bottom.
Buy some solid base rock. Cut it into fairly thin pieces, and glue that to a substrate.
Rough it up so it looks like a realistic rock.
Maybe add some sand in the joints.
I have seen that done on back walls of tanks. See below.
So basically you have a live rock bottom, so it is real, not plastic-sand.
Although all the nooks and crannies will gather detritus, so it might be pretty bad.

rockwallwithfoam.jpg
 

Flagg37

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I used to want to do a rock wall on the back glass.
I thought about that.
The problem : You would get a small hole in the real sand, which would look OK for a while since fake sand would show.
But then algae would grow in that hole, which might look even worse.

An alternative thought - fake reef bottom.
Buy some solid base rock. Cut it into fairly thin pieces, and glue that to a substrate.
Rough it up so it looks like a realistic rock.
Maybe add some sand in the joints.
I have seen that done on back walls of tanks. See below.
So basically you have a live rock bottom, so it is real, not plastic-sand.
Although all the nooks and crannies will gather detritus, so it might be pretty bad.

View attachment 13875
Your plan is to do this on the bottom glass.
 

rygh

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I used to want to do a rock wall on the back glass.

Your plan is to do this on the bottom glass.
More of a thought.
Current plan - do nothing.
Possible plan - pvc/starbord, light grey or beig. Starboard ST has "Sanshade"
Pretty unlikely to do a rock-bottom.
 

JVU

BOD
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Thanks for sharing your experiment, interesting and not what I would have predicted.
 

rygh

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Not a good week for equipment.

My algae scrubber pump failed.
Jebao-6000. I will call customer support and see if it is under warranty. ... :p Hahah ... Jebao .... service ... warranty...
Very old pump, almost zero maintenance, hard to be mad.
And I have a spare. Jebao = cheap, so easy to have a spare.
I use the same pumps for scrubber and two returns, so always have a spare on hand.

FYI: I had a red dragon pump on my skimmer fail. Service was great, cross shipped for free.
But that was still slower and more expensive than replacing Jebao with the spare and buying a new one.


My Reefbot water tester also failed.
Customer support took a few days, but I did eventually get it diagnosed. They could do tests locally as I reported the actions.
They are shipping me a new servo for the syringe section.
Again - if you are not DIY-savvy, don't buy. If you are, still a good product.
 

rygh

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How are the living things doing?
Snails are doing poorly.

Forgot problem #3:
My Kalkwasser was dripping on top of a sensor wire. Something moved...
This resulted in it solidifying before it really entered the water.
So I had a large (2" or so) block of calcium precipitate, and my Alk and Ca dropped rather significantly.
The big turbo snails hate that.

Coral is doing well.
 

rygh

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My Foxface is not doing so great. :-(
Best description is "Guant" like an old person. Thin, haggard, slightly grey in spots that should be all white.
Been getting slowly worse over several months now.
I have tried various frozen foods and sheets of seaweed.
The fish east a bit, but then sort of loses interest.
Other fish are fat and happy.

Pretty sure it is simply old age.
Pretty sure I have had it for 10 years, and it was not a baby when received.

If anyone has any great ideas, let me know.
 
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