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Vermetid snail quarantine. How long before they stop spawning?

I don’t have experience with the marine snow method so I don’t have a comment specifically on if that method works. I’d just like to point out that it sounds like people are talking about finely ground solid calcium carbonate in this thread. Not actual marine snow, which contains many other organic and inorganic components, including a bunch of what would be food for the vermetids. Just want to make sure people aren’t accidentally feeding their vermetids and worsening the problem based on this thread’s discussion.
 
Thales said:
Also, I did the CC route for several weeks and saw no lessening of pests.

I break them in various ways and hit them with the laser if I cannot break them.
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Meckley did fenben flakes to kill his right? Along with every other polychaete and snail in his systems.
 
What does it look like when they spawn? I’m not sure I’ve seen that before? I see them stick out the mucus like things to collect food and reel it back in, but that’s about it…
 
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I recycle egg shells for various things like soil amendments / calcium supplements/ helps break down compost faster. Rinse them off with hot water then store in ziplock in freezer till I get a full bag or two..Bake for 15-20 min at 400-420 on sheet pan..Found coffee grinder works a bit better since the blades are down lower then blenders..
 
During the first year of my reef tank I had a vermitid explosion. I literally had thousands on the underside of my rock scape. I completely irradiated them in my display tank mostly by dosing the calcium carbonate coral snow every few days for 2 months straight and added a few dozen bumble bee snails. When I dosed the snow, I turned off my return pump and just let the snow circulate in the display tank for 30 minutes. The coral snow is removed from the water column by my rollermat and skimmer. I now dose coral snow in connection with my weekly water change. The water looks pristine the next day!
 
Coral reefer said:
Chill man! It’s not ok to ask if something is a scientifically known thing or something someone told you or something you think to be true from personal experience?
A lot of times in reefing people believe things that aren’t always true, or can be mistaken about why something happened.
Nobody called you out or said you were wrong.
We are all friends here. Let’s try to remember it!
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sorry, I understand I kind of lost my head there. I guess I misread your tone. my bad.
I'm new to BAR, much better vibe than other places for sure.
 
anizato said:
sorry, I understand I kind of lost my head there. I guess I misread your tone. my bad.
I'm new to BAR, much better vibe than other places for sure.
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No worries! To be honest it wasn’t even me you snapped at. I’m just trying to step in and make sure we are all a bunch of fonsies. Cause I agree, this place is cool.
It’s easy to misunderstand and think people are being jerks, (and sometimes they are!) especially online.
We should all do our best to assume the best of each other as much as we can.
 
Thales said:
Also, I did the CC route for several weeks and saw no lessening of pests.

I break them in various ways and hit them with the laser if I cannot break them.
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thank you for saving me the time to figure this out for myself!
Slingfox said:
During the first year of my reef tank I had a vermitid explosion. I literally had thousands on the underside of my rock scape. I completely irradiated them in my display tank mostly by dosing the calcium carbonate coral snow every few days for 2 months straight and added a few dozen bumble bee snails. When I dosed the snow, I turned off my return pump and just let the snow circulate in the display tank for 30 minutes. The coral snow is removed from the water column by my rollermat and skimmer. I now dose coral snow in connection with my weekly water change. The water looks pristine the next day!
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So I am going to fan the flames here - going down a small rabbit hole I learned that vermitid snails actually use calcium carbonate to build their tubes! I can't find evidence that it impedes their digestive track at all. I also found that the bumblebees can be effective at removing them -but not guaranteed. Question-do you recall if they reduced after the introduction of the bumble bees or after?
 
L/B Block said:
Snails are meat?
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SNAIL - BUMBLE BEE Engina mendicaria
Yes, bumblebee snails are primarily carnivorous and scavengers, feeding on detritus, decaying organic matter, and small invertebrates like worms and pest snails such as vermetids, rather than algae. They require a high-protein diet and will prey on other invertebrates or sedentary organisms like corals and feather dusters if other food sources are insufficient.
 
Turkeysammich said:
SNAIL - BUMBLE BEE Engina mendicaria
Yes, bumblebee snails are primarily carnivorous and scavengers, feeding on detritus, decaying organic matter, and small invertebrates like worms and pest snails such as vermetids, rather than algae. They require a high-protein diet and will prey on other invertebrates or sedentary organisms like corals and feather dusters if other food sources are insufficient
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Turkeysammich said:
SNAIL - BUMBLE BEE Engina mendicaria
Yes, bumblebee snails are primarily carnivorous and scavengers, feeding on detritus, decaying organic matter, and small invertebrates like worms and pest snails such as vermetids, rather than algae. They require a high-protein diet and will prey on other invertebrates or sedentary organisms like corals and feather dusters if other food sources are insufficient.
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I have heard that they can prey on other snails. I have a lot of those stomatella slugs-hmm..
 
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