Waterbox?
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xcaret
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@Bruce Spiegelman
I browsed through their website and seems Red Sea has some tough competition there ant to tip the scale to their favor, price...
I browsed through their website and seems Red Sea has some tough competition there ant to tip the scale to their favor, price...
kinetic
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I have a Red Sea, but I think if waterbox existed when I got my tank, I may have gone that direction. Waterbox is very active on the Reef2Reef community, and they seem to listen to all the complaints of Red Sea owners and make the changes to their tanks. For example:
Red Sea ATO "systems" are useless, yet they're a big part of the sump design. So Waterbox uses a whole third party system and a large reservoir. For me, I'd still just use a Neptune ATK or something else anyway, so not a huge deal.
Red Sea tank dimensions get a bit narrow when they get longer, they stay about 22" whereas the Waterbox get bigger in width a bit more, so it feels more boxy and less of a wall.
The Red Sea herbie drain valve sucks pretty bad. Waterbox uses a much higher quality one that I heard is easier to work with.
Red Sea plumbing is simple, but generally sucks in terms of how it's attached to the tank and has some super non-standard sizing. Waterbox went all out to incorporate mainfolds and such that you can use.
They both have Peninsulas, but they both miss out on the smaller peninsula tank market. Not sure why... that's the only thing they won't listen to users on. But maybe most people want gigantic tanks. But of all the feedback I've seen, this is the one they have constantly ignored.
The prices are comparable. Waterbox sometimes has a sale (I think they just had one last week), whereas Red Sea tanks are never on sale.
Waterbox also makes specific shallow frag tanks. They're really beautiful. I think @Bruce Spiegelman got one. If you want a show frag tank, the Waterbox is probably the way to go unless you build one custom.
If there's a good deal, I may actually replace my Reefer 170 with a Waterbox 100.3.
Red Sea ATO "systems" are useless, yet they're a big part of the sump design. So Waterbox uses a whole third party system and a large reservoir. For me, I'd still just use a Neptune ATK or something else anyway, so not a huge deal.
Red Sea tank dimensions get a bit narrow when they get longer, they stay about 22" whereas the Waterbox get bigger in width a bit more, so it feels more boxy and less of a wall.
The Red Sea herbie drain valve sucks pretty bad. Waterbox uses a much higher quality one that I heard is easier to work with.
Red Sea plumbing is simple, but generally sucks in terms of how it's attached to the tank and has some super non-standard sizing. Waterbox went all out to incorporate mainfolds and such that you can use.
They both have Peninsulas, but they both miss out on the smaller peninsula tank market. Not sure why... that's the only thing they won't listen to users on. But maybe most people want gigantic tanks. But of all the feedback I've seen, this is the one they have constantly ignored.
The prices are comparable. Waterbox sometimes has a sale (I think they just had one last week), whereas Red Sea tanks are never on sale.
Waterbox also makes specific shallow frag tanks. They're really beautiful. I think @Bruce Spiegelman got one. If you want a show frag tank, the Waterbox is probably the way to go unless you build one custom.
If there's a good deal, I may actually replace my Reefer 170 with a Waterbox 100.3.
Mozby
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RandyC
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It's called a diaphragm valve and does gets dirty. Some people have issues with it getting stable and some don't with regards to changing drain rate (which means it can be slightly noisy for some). I haven't had much of an issue with it.
It's non-standard depending on who you're talking to. Europeans probably don't take issue with it.
I have the 27 gallon frag tank. Great quality. Incredibly easy to set up as far as plumbing goes. It's dead quiet when dialed in properly. The glass is good. I'd buy one again if I was looking for a quality tank at a good price.
Mozby
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Thought so too, but I can't remember who it was.
