Happy New Year!!
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sfsuphysics
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See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
Elite
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See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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Happy New Year Mike ;D
See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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Happy New Year Mike ;D
sfsuphysics
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Lunar calendar - based upon the moon's cycles, 29 days until the next full moon. I.e. ends up being shorter than months in the Gregorian calendar system. As a result you end up with "more months" even if its only a fractional one.
Yeah yeah I know... Mike you're thinking too damn much!
Yeah yeah I know... Mike you're thinking too damn much!
Tumbleweed
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Yes Happy New Year All. I spent the Morning at Temple. It is always a spirt awaking experience.
CookieJar
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[quote author=sfsuphysics link=topic=6078.msg76920#msg76920 date=1232990403]
See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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I know some Chinese of the traditions, not all, but the most important thing I know about them is to NOT question why. Although 1 good question to ask this time of year is how did the 12 animals get 'chosen'? I heard the story and it was entertaining and interesting, so that's a safe question. : ;D I do wonder why Chinese call it Year of the Ox, and Vietnamese call it year of the buffalo....the animals are close enough I guess. :-
See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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I know some Chinese of the traditions, not all, but the most important thing I know about them is to NOT question why. Although 1 good question to ask this time of year is how did the 12 animals get 'chosen'? I heard the story and it was entertaining and interesting, so that's a safe question. : ;D I do wonder why Chinese call it Year of the Ox, and Vietnamese call it year of the buffalo....the animals are close enough I guess. :-
Raddogz
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Hey Bill - questions are good just not at the time of said celebration. No clue as to why the particular animals nor the positions they are in on the zodiac.
I think water buffalo is as close to an ox and I'm pretty sure much of China actually use water buffalo for manual labor
We kind of fudge some of the traditions - kind of creating "new" traditions along the way ;D
I think water buffalo is as close to an ox and I'm pretty sure much of China actually use water buffalo for manual labor
We kind of fudge some of the traditions - kind of creating "new" traditions along the way ;D
Elite
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[quote author=sfsuphysics link=topic=6078.msg76920#msg76920 date=1232990403]
See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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I know some Chinese of the traditions, not all, but the most important thing I know about them is to NOT question why. Although 1 good question to ask this time of year is how did the 12 animals get 'chosen'? I heard the story and it was entertaining and interesting, so that's a safe question. : ;D I do wonder why Chinese call it Year of the Ox, and Vietnamese call it year of the buffalo....the animals are close enough I guess. :-
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Nope we call it year of the Ox too. Where do you hear that?
[quote author=sfsuphysics link=topic=6078.msg76920#msg76920 date=1232990403]
See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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I know some Chinese of the traditions, not all, but the most important thing I know about them is to NOT question why. Although 1 good question to ask this time of year is how did the 12 animals get 'chosen'? I heard the story and it was entertaining and interesting, so that's a safe question. : ;D I do wonder why Chinese call it Year of the Ox, and Vietnamese call it year of the buffalo....the animals are close enough I guess. :-
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Nope we call it year of the Ox too. Where do you hear that?
[quote author=sfsuphysics link=topic=6078.msg76920#msg76920 date=1232990403]
See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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Yah...this makes my two left over brain cells hurts too.
See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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Yah...this makes my two left over brain cells hurts too.
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GreshamH
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left over from what? Where'd the rest go?
Lyn
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Kung hee fat choy!
"Ox" is a generic term:
"The male of bovine quadrupeds, especially the domestic animal when castrated and grown to its full size, or nearly so. The word is also applied, as a general name, to any species of bovine animals, male and female."
Therefore, Water buffalo (which are native bovine of Asia) are oxen.
[quote author=sfsuphysics link=topic=6078.msg76920#msg76920 date=1232990403]
See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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I vaguely remember my aunts talking about this fact during a family CNY celebration. They said that was why the date was early/late that year. I can't remember which it was, it was so long ago. But basically, I believe the New year date gets readjusted so it all works out.
"Ox" is a generic term:
"The male of bovine quadrupeds, especially the domestic animal when castrated and grown to its full size, or nearly so. The word is also applied, as a general name, to any species of bovine animals, male and female."
Therefore, Water buffalo (which are native bovine of Asia) are oxen.
[quote author=sfsuphysics link=topic=6078.msg76920#msg76920 date=1232990403]
See if you can answer me this, the Chinese new year is based on a Lunar calendar supposedly, yet it only has 12 distinct "animals", however every 2 years or so you get an extra "month" thrown in, moon takes 29 days to go around.
Or at the very least why doesn't the CNY celebration drift through the year to correspond to the discrepancy between the lunar and solar calendars?
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I vaguely remember my aunts talking about this fact during a family CNY celebration. They said that was why the date was early/late that year. I can't remember which it was, it was so long ago. But basically, I believe the New year date gets readjusted so it all works out.
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GreshamH
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mmmm Ox tail soup