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BlueSallymandr

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As I mentioned in another thread, I'm thinking about upgrading to an IM 40 gallon AIO tank. I've been doing research on equipment to complete the setup, but the choices are a little overwhelming. I've come up with this list, in case anyone wants to offer constructive criticism or roasts of it, haha. My goals for the tank are mixed softies and LPS, plus peaceful fish and inverts.
  • Lighting: Noopsyche K7 mini kit 60W led (I don't want a top of the line light considering my budget and goals for the tank)
  • Protein skimmer: NuvoSkim 24-Volt DC™ AIO Protein Skimmer [Midsize] (this one should fit in the back of the AIO tank, that's why I picked it)
  • Heater: any random 150W heater from LFS
  • ATO: AutoAqua Smart ATO Nano kit + random food-grade container from Target for RO water
  • Accessories: FishGuard™ AIO Overflow Protector [Midsize] from IM - my fish/inverts are small and make bad choices. Does anyone know if the lid for the IM AIO kits protect the emergency overflow portion of the back of the tank? If not I will need something there, too
I haven't actually bought anything yet, just thinking through the options.
 
I have a IM 40L AIO as well with LPS and softies.
  • Lighting: I'm not familiar with the Noopsyche K7, but what is the coverage? The IM40L is 36" long so not sure if only one fixture would be enough coverage. I'm using a XR30 on mine and I still don't think it's enough coverage.
  • Skimmer: IMO I don't think nano tanks need skimmer as long as you are doing bi-weekly/monthly water changes. LPS and softies like a bit higher nutrient water. IM skimmer is trash.
  • Heater: IM40L is only 13" tall so I'd go with a 125W Ehiem Jager 12.2" heater paired with a InkBird ITC-306a wifi controller.
  • ATO: AutoAqua Smart ATO is $110 vs the Tunze Nano ATO at $115, Tunze is more reliable and pump sits inside your water reservoir instead of hanging off the back of the tank.
  • Accessories: Don't get the IM FishGuard it's a waste of money. The IM40L will come with a HighTide water riser that will prevent any fishes swimming through the weir. Also, I've never had any fishes get through the emergency overflow gap between the lid and false wall.
With all that said, I personally think the IM50AIO Lagoon is a better tank than the IM40L. Only $200 more at $1350 vs $1550 and I like the dimensions better. 13" height vs 16" height make a big difference in fish and corals space.
 
also tunze ato has stronger magnet. I'd recommend using a stronger magnet with the autoaqua sensor or being careful not to bump it.
 
I had both IM50 and IM40 AIO.
Both had aquamaxx 1.5 HOB
Get a titanium heater with a controller (they're shorter than the glass model)
Had the autosmart ATO and Tunze 3517. Both work fine
Flashguards are fugly
Get the xr30 chinese knockoff A8se

If you're on a budget buy used tanks.
 
As I mentioned in another thread, I'm thinking about upgrading to an IM 40 gallon AIO tank. I've been doing research on equipment to complete the setup, but the choices are a little overwhelming. I've come up with this list, in case anyone wants to offer constructive criticism or roasts of it, haha. My goals for the tank are mixed softies and LPS, plus peaceful fish and inverts.
  • Lighting: Noopsyche K7 mini kit 60W led (I don't want a top of the line light considering my budget and goals for the tank)
  • Protein skimmer: NuvoSkim 24-Volt DC™ AIO Protein Skimmer [Midsize] (this one should fit in the back of the AIO tank, that's why I picked it)
  • Heater: any random 150W heater from LFS
  • ATO: AutoAqua Smart ATO Nano kit + random food-grade container from Target for RO water
  • Accessories: FishGuard™ AIO Overflow Protector [Midsize] from IM - my fish/inverts are small and make bad choices. Does anyone know if the lid for the IM AIO kits protect the emergency overflow portion of the back of the tank? If not I will need something there, too
I haven't actually bought anything yet, just thinking through the options.
Suggest getting two heaters for redundancy. I have 2x 200 watt heaters just in case one fails.
 
I have that light for when I run my nano, it's decent. It’s not going to be sufficient on anything much bigger than a 10-15g though.
 
Nothing new only to echo the recommendations on the heater - do not try to be cheap on the heater(s).

The Eheim seems great, but I would only use titanium heaters in my tank(s), with a separate controller.

I use the Aqualogic controller even on my nano tank, but I am also using a dual controller setup, i.e., inkbird and aqualogic. Even on my Red sea Max nano AIO I had two heaters for redunancy (I just realized I do not have this on my new nano, good reminder to setup this up…:)….).

Main disagreement I have is on the skimmer use. I went through significant efforts to replace to the Max nano with the Reefer nano (both red sea) just to have a sump for a skimmer. The most important filtration in my opinion (in addition to water changes). If a skimmer does not fit, I would change the tank.
 
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your taking the time. I think there was a little confusion - I'm looking at the 40 tank rather than the 40L, with the interior dimensions Length 23” Width: 15” Height: 18.89”. Definitely don't want to buy a used tank. My first tank was used and it leaked within a few months and had to be replaced.

What do the controllers bring to the table over the thermostat in the heater itself? I had thought they were for use with chillers. For heater redundancy, I will have two extra heaters I can throw in if the main one fails until I can get a replacement.
  • Lighting: I don't need a longer unit because the tank is only 23" long, so I was looking at the puck style. I'm now looking at the following:
    • Radion XR15 G6 fixture...it's more expensive than I wanted but it looks very nice. Spread should be plenty big for this tank.
    • ReefLED90 LED light fixture (Red Sea)
    • Aquaillumination Prime 16? I read reviews saying they are melty
  • Protein skimmer: Skip for now, possible to add later?
  • Heater: Eheim titanium heater (due to the 18" depth of this tank I think I can fit the larger size). Controller?
  • ATO: Tunze + random food-grade container from Target for RO water
  • Accessories: still think I'm going to get the FishGuard™ AIO Overflow Protector [Midsize] from IM - I can't emphasize how dumb my fish are, lol. I just fished one out of my pump last night.
 
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your taking the time. I think there was a little confusion - I'm looking at the 40 tank rather than the 40L, with the interior dimensions Length 23” Width: 15” Height: 18.89”. Definitely don't want to buy a used tank. My first tank was used and it leaked within a few months and had to be replaced.

What do the controllers bring to the table over the thermostat in the heater itself? I had thought they were for use with chillers. For heater redundancy, I will have two extra heaters I can throw in if the main one fails until I can get a replacement.
  • Lighting: I don't need a longer unit because the tank is only 23" long, so I was looking at the puck style. I'm now looking at the following:
    • Radion XR15 G6 fixture...it's more expensive than I wanted but it looks very nice. Spread should be plenty big for this tank.
    • ReefLED90 LED light fixture (Red Sea)
    • Aquaillumination Prime 16? I read reviews saying they are melty
  • Protein skimmer: Skip for now, possible to add later?
  • Heater: Eheim titanium heater (due to the 18" depth of this tank I think I can fit the larger size). Controller?
  • ATO: Tunze + random food-grade container from Target for RO water
  • Accessories: still think I'm going to get the FishGuard™ AIO Overflow Protector [Midsize] from IM - I can't emphasize how dumb my fish are, lol. I just fished one out of my pump last night.
With the heater dual heaters, the implication is:

If one falls the other will ensure tank maintains temperature. They are suggesting using two heaters at the same time. Not having two as in using one and having the other be a spare.

The issue with a heater failing is you may not know when it does. Possibly dead fish / coral.

The controller has it's own temperature probes beyond the built in one on the heater themselves (they are rarely everaccuratein any case. Most have to be adjusted alot tk get desired temperature.) Fluccations occur from light causing water to heat up. Temperature in the room/ outside, rather you have a canopy, lid or ac near by. Lights of off temperature swings are possibly.

Controllers will turn off heaters if tank gets to hot, turn them kn when it gets to cold, and even sound a alarm if the temperature swings outside of your set range. Speaking of the inkbird controller I have on my maint tank.

Heaters work until the day comes they quit. How will you know there is a issue unless you manually check multiple very times every single day? You can get by without a controller but for under $50 you can have peace of mind.

Down the road if it ever goes south when you have lots invested in your tank, and skiped on the heater/controller it's something you would regret.

View it simple as driving without car insurance and all the possibilites that goes along with that. You can do possibly for many years. You can do it until the day comes you regret doing it.

This is not a sales pitch at all. Though I strongly recommend a controller even if you don't go with the dual heaters paired with a controller. Something I also need to get for my main tank. I only have the dual heaters/inkbird set up on my newest tanks.

I have 2 nicrew 150 watt lights set up on my 65 gallon tank. I can't turn them all the way up because they are too powerful.

They can grow anything with the par they put out. For a 40 gallon one might possibly be enough. They are around 200 on amazon worth looking into in any case.

Make sure you do more research on light choices they may have even spread and more shimer, but they may not give enough par penetration depending on tank depth. Just really do alot of research the light you consider.
 
Thanks, MichaelB! I'm sold on the inkbird + two heaters now, makes sense to me.

Something I forgot to mention re:lighting: I have a medical condition where I'm very sensitive to UV/blue spectrum lighting (lupus), and it was suggested to me that I put a shade like the ones made by Printed Reef on a lighting fixture. The goal would be to make sure the light ends up in the tank and not on the viewer. I think that would require me to buy a major brand name? (Right now, I avoid this problem because my BioCube's integrated hood light keeps the light off me). The amount of shimmer on a Kessil is too much for me aesthetically based on video. But I haven't finished doing my research - there's so much to read.
 
Thanks, MichaelB! I'm sold on the inkbird + two heaters now, makes sense to me.

Something I forgot to mention re:lighting: I have a medical condition where I'm very sensitive to UV/blue spectrum lighting (lupus), and it was suggested to me that I put a shade like the ones made by Printed Reef on a lighting fixture. The goal would be to make sure the light ends up in the tank and not on the viewer. I think that would require me to buy a major brand name? (Right now, I avoid this problem because my BioCube's integrated hood light keeps the light off me). The amount of shimmer on a Kessil is too much for me aesthetically based on video. But I haven't finished doing my research - there's so much to read.
Not necessarily. Now a days people 3D print shades for all kinds of lights. Fish of Hex makes nice 3D printed shades for the Nicrew 150W.
 

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Thanks, MichaelB! I'm sold on the inkbird + two heaters now, makes sense to me.

Something I forgot to mention re:lighting: I have a medical condition where I'm very sensitive to UV/blue spectrum lighting (lupus), and it was suggested to me that I put a shade like the ones made by Printed Reef on a lighting fixture. The goal would be to make sure the light ends up in the tank and not on the viewer. I think that would require me to buy a major brand name? (Right now, I avoid this problem because my BioCube's integrated hood light keeps the light off me). The amount of shimmer on a Kessil is too much for me aesthetically based on video. But I haven't finished doing my research - there's so much to read.
With people in the club able to 3d Printing you have more options for light shades than you would think.
 
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Overall i'm not telling you to get a nicrew 150 fyi.

Just to do lots of research. At a glance you would expect a expensive name brand light to be all you need. How ever you could spend the money and realize that light gives even spread, the shimmer disco ball effect. But in order to get enough par from it at a certain depth you may need more than one.

Take your tank measurements generally. Width equals the spread also factored in by mounting height of the light.

Height of your tank combined with mounting Height of the light will give you a idea of par at x depth.

Typically people aim for around 100 par or so at the sand bed level.

Lights will often have charts that given you a idea of par measured at sand bed when mount at x Height. This would give you a better rough idea of the light your considering.

1.) Par at x depth (will tell you if the light put out enough par based on how you mount it)

2.) LIght spread (will tell you if you will need more than one Light)

3.) Mounting Height effecting penetration and spread:

*If you mount light 1 inch above the water = not much spread, but more par at depth

*If you mount the light 3 feet above the water = more spread, but much less par penetration at depth

Par and spread needed from a light is factored in by the coral you wish to grow one day.

Softies- very low par
Lps- moderate light
Sps- high light.

All that to suggest research the lights probably more than anything else. So you get one that will work for you. As it would suck to spend alot of money on a specific light and discover later it doesn't put out enough parnto grow this coral you want.

I'm not expert on Lights at all, just my suggestions that you make careful considerations and do research. Or heck ask her and someone one who knows more can probably say this light will work or won't work based on your specific tank measurements and planned mounting
 
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Thanks again! I've been doing a bunch of reading on lights, and I think I've finally settled on one. I really like the idea of the ReeFi Uno 2.0 Pro. It looks like it has much more par compared to the Radion XR15 I was looking at (XR30s are too expensive for me), and added control when compared to the Nicrews. Based on the reviews I saw, it should be able to have enough par both for my current goals (softies + LPS) and to crank it up if I change my mind in the future and want to add SPS. I also like that the mounting bracket that you can get with it is height adjustable, so that I could adjust spread and par at depth. It has built in wifi control and lots of adjustable features. I know this is a bit shallow but since I'm planning on dropping a lot of money on this setup as a display, I would like the fancy ramp-up and down and moonlight settings if possible. They are pricier than the Nicrews, but it looks like with them I would still be on budget for this setup. Anyone here have experience with these lights? I've done a lot of searching other forums and saw good things.
 
Thanks again! I've been doing a bunch of reading on lights, and I think I've finally settled on one. I really like the idea of the ReeFi Uno 2.0 Pro. It looks like it has much more par compared to the Radion XR15 I was looking at (XR30s are too expensive for me), and added control when compared to the Nicrews. Based on the reviews I saw, it should be able to have enough par both for my current goals (softies + LPS) and to crank it up if I change my mind in the future and want to add SPS. I also like that the mounting bracket that you can get with it is height adjustable, so that I could adjust spread and par at depth. It has built in wifi control and lots of adjustable features. I know this is a bit shallow but since I'm planning on dropping a lot of money on this setup as a display, I would like the fancy ramp-up and down and moonlight settings if possible. They are pricier than the Nicrews, but it looks like with them I would still be on budget for this setup. Anyone here have experience with these lights? I've done a lot of searching other forums and saw good things.
@Darkxerox is a reefi fan. Definitely good lights. FYI, the nicrew lights can ramp up/down with the controller. It’s like $50 but you’d still be at like 1/2 of the reefi. The reefi is definitely a better light tho if it’s within budget. But if you’re only growing softies and LPS, I’d personally go with the nicrew and use the rest of the money on something else. @ReyDeFarts has a killer tank running off of nicrews
 
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