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Custom Tank Cover / Lids - Wrasse ready - Recommendations and Lessons Learned

I would ask how big the cord cut outs are going to be. It might help to have some extra room so it makes it easy taking off the lid. I know when I had mine they fit in perfectly but with that it would hold onto the cord so I would physically have to make sure the were free from the lid.
The problem with extra room is that your fish will find that extra room and jump out.
 
The only thing I would be concerned about is the lid being made out of acrylic. I’m under the impression that acrylic warps under led lights due to the heat and UV? That’s why most of the other manufacturers use polycarbonate for their lids.

Are there any examples of Kreative Reefer lids after long term use? What’s their warranty if it warps?
Great point. He does have a write up about this specifc concern.

 
Great point. He does have a write up about this specifc concern.

Good to see they already addressed that concern. I didn't know the differences between exturded vs cell cast acrylics. Learned something new!
 
Good to see they already addressed that concern. I didn't know the differences between exturded vs cell cast acrylics. Learned something new!

Great point. He does have a write up about this specifc concern.


Did they address it though? That write up basically just concedes that acrylic is weaker and more prone to warping and discoloration. With no advantage other than cost?

I guess it makes sense if you are looking to save money with your lid, but for all functional purposes poly is the better material, no?
 
Did they address it though? That write up basically just concedes that acrylic is weaker and more prone to warping and discoloration. With no advantage other than cost?

I guess it makes sense if you are looking to save money with your lid, but for all functional purposes poly is the better material, no?
Yes, I have concluded the same. I guess they did ‘address’ the topic but were honest about the differences without saying that this is not an issue. They offered me to refund the money I had prepaid if I had second thoughts, and this offer alone made me not do it.

I typically like to buy the good stuff but the lid has been a bit of a painful experience for me for several reasons, and the way he operates made this process very easy for me, and the communication is excellent and speedy. Also, I feel that this lid might need additional customization, which I might be missing, so I treat it more like a pilot project. Lastly, the warping might take a while to materialize and could be less significant than it sounds.

After all, it is just a lid which hopefully allows me to keep wrasses. Buying something of known inferior quality is typically not my approach, but this seemed to be a bit of a grey area. Will report back once I receive it and using it for a while.
 
Yes, I have concluded the same. I guess they did ‘address’ the topic but were honest about the differences without saying that this is not an issue. They offered me to refund the money I had prepaid if I had second thoughts, and this offer alone made me not do it.

I typically like to buy the good stuff but the lid has been a bit of a painful experience for me for several reasons, and the way he operates made this process very easy for me, and the communication is excellent and speedy. Also, I feel that this lid might need additional customization, which I might be missing, so I treat it more like a pilot project. Lastly, the warping might take a while to materialize and could be less significant than it sounds.

After all, it is just a lid which hopefully allows me to keep wrasses. Buying something of known inferior quality is typically not my approach, but this seemed to be a bit of a grey area. Will report back once I receive it and using it for a while.

Yeah fair enough, there is a lot of value in good CS and engagement from the seller. I have gone down the custom lid rabbit hole several times myself and ultimately never pulled the trigger, for many of the same reasons you've covered yourself in this thread.

I still don't have a lid - and still haven't lost a fish to jumping yet. I think that's mostly because of a very large euro brace on my tank. Knock on wood!
 
Yeah fair enough, there is a lot of value in good CS and engagement from the seller. I have gone down the custom lid rabbit hole several times myself and ultimately never pulled the trigger, for many of the same reasons you've covered yourself in this thread.

I still don't have a lid - and still haven't lost a fish to jumping yet. I think that's mostly because of a very large euro brace on my tank. Knock on wood!
Knocking for you - how large is the Eurobrace? Do you keep wrasses?
 
While not that exciting solution, IMO before spending $400-$500 on a lid that can't later be adjusted, I'd assess how expensive your fish are going to be, how likely it really is for them to jump (especially with eurobrace), and how much you really wouldn't like a simple AL mesh one. IMO it's very easy to over think that a basic mesh one will look bad or be non optimal, until you install it, see it's not very visible, and 10 minutes later never notice it again because from viewing angles it generally isn't a focal point.

The AL bar footprints are very small, for all the reasons AL is used in lightweight and strong situations. It's quite easy to add cups/cutouts, quite easy to later mod, and initial investment is low + easy to take apart and repurpose for a second tank later (therefore not a sunken cost worry inducer).

Not trying to convince you otherwise, but relaying since I went down this path, including getting quotes and designs, and then decided it was too complicated + too expensive + too slow, so I temporarily built the AL mesh kind. I've since decided I'm quite happy with it.

Also the alternative option is buy a router (or a CNC) and build your own :)
 
Do you need the bigger hole for auto feeder for when you are away from home or will the front cutouts work? Where and how would you place the feeder? I have a Kraken lid on a Biocube and it is a great screen top with a cutout maybe 2.5-3" diameter. Surprising how big the hole needs to be to let most of the food fall in from rotating Eheim feeder. Mesh top helps tank not overheat and doesn't gather condensation.
 
While not that exciting solution, IMO before spending $400-$500 on a lid that can't later be adjusted, I'd assess how expensive your fish are going to be, how likely it really is for them to jump (especially with eurobrace), and how much you really wouldn't like a simple AL mesh one. IMO it's very easy to over think that a basic mesh one will look bad or be non optimal, until you install it, see it's not very visible, and 10 minutes later never notice it again because from viewing angles it generally isn't a focal point.

The AL bar footprints are very small, for all the reasons AL is used in lightweight and strong situations. It's quite easy to add cups/cutouts, quite easy to later mod, and initial investment is low + easy to take apart and repurpose for a second tank later (therefore not a sunken cost worry inducer).

Not trying to convince you otherwise, but relaying since I went down this path, including getting quotes and designs, and then decided it was too complicated + too expensive + too slow, so I temporarily built the AL mesh kind. I've since decided I'm quite happy with it.

Also the alternative option is buy a router (or a CNC) and build your own :)
I am not sure if I agree with the sentiment that the cost of the lid needs an assessment of the cost of the fish to determine if it is worth it.

I believe we need to provide a habitat which ensures that the tank accomodates the animals were are adding in the most effective way possible, recognizing the limitations of this artifical habitat (tank size is one factor).

The title of this thread highlights that this was targeted at wrasses who seem to be likely to jump as per my knowledge. I am sure there are other fishes with a similar behavior.

An expensive lid does likely not provide a better protection than a cheaper one. However, I had mentioned above that I already own the standard mesh lish which came with the tank, but which I cannot further customize and which now creates openings given the various amounts of pumps I have added, and lacks openings for feeding, which requires me to keep the entire lid removed during feeding. Both creates risk of jumping in my opinion, which I would like to avoid.

If I knew how to operate a router (?) or a CNC, I would probably not consider going with an external company, but I am also not very keen on learning how to use either, yet I can see why others might find that a good path to chose.
 
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