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Well I finally got a pair of saddleback clowns and within the hour they were both hosting in my carpet anemone. thanks again for a great pair of fish Robert and Cerissa.

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man these clowns too quick to get a shot while hosting in it :D
 
I had a super green carpet like that once (honestly before I should have had one... sorry)... anyways my perculas that I hate hosted it but they fricking ate the guts out of the center until it died!


That being said I miss nice normal looking clowns... unlike my mean tomato :D
 
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I had a super green carpet like that once (honestly before I should have had one... sorry)... anyways my perculas that I hate hosted it but they fricking ate the guts out of the center until it died!


That being said I miss nice normal looking clowns... unlike my mean tomato :D
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I'm surprised that your Percs would hurt the anemone. Are you sure the anemone wasn't on its way out, and the Percs were only trying to clean or feed it?
 
very cool sergio :) The saddle back is rather unique (at least to me).

I just picked up a B&W and am hoping he will get desperate and host in my frogspawn lol.
 
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I had a super green carpet like that once (honestly before I should have had one... sorry)... anyways my perculas that I hate hosted it but they fricking ate the guts out of the center until it died!


That being said I miss nice normal looking clowns... unlike my mean tomato :D
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I'm surprised that your Percs would hurt the anemone. Are you sure the anemone wasn't on its way out, and the Percs were only trying to clean or feed it?

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I've watched clowns rip tentacles off and not in a nice way :) I think your putting too much into just how they "feel" about their host :) (little pricks, be nice :) )
 
I've watched clowns rip tentacles off and not in a nice way :) I think your putting too much into just how they "feel" about their host :) (little pricks, be nice :) )
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Wow, really?

It seems counterproductive from an evolutionary standpoint. Kind of like tearing down your own house. That behavior wouldn't contribute to longevity of a species. Those with less protection are more likely to be eaten and their genes being lost from the pool; thus snuffing out that destructive behavior.

As much as I like clownfish and their cute and charming antics, I also understand that almost all of what thy do is prewired in them for survival which has developed over millenia. The need to host and bond with an anemone varies with the clownfish species, but even my little Ocellaris strongly bonded with their fake plastic anemone. They would clean it of algae and "feed" it by pushing flake food onto its' fake mouth. :D

I'm sure that you, Mike, and others have seen destructive clowns, but it make me wonder if the fish was not compromised in some way (like a rabid dog biting its master), or the behavior was stress related (mother animals will sometimes kill their young when stressed). Being captured and put into a tiny tank with a gazillion noses pressing up on the glass has got to be disconcerting. :-

It would make an interesting behavioral study; to see if destructive clowns increased their rate of nipping/biting of the anemone when people were near the tank. OK, I'm going off into zoological geekiness, sorry. I just find it interesting, albeit sad, that the clown should "bite the hand" that protects it. Just doesn't make good evolutionary sense.
 
It happens in the wild as well so IMO your theory doesn't hold much water :) . Again I think you are giving them too much credit. We're not talking high level thought with fish.
 
Gomer, I'm not sure about the personality difference with your B&W SB and my B&W Percs, but they probably won't host in the frog. I have had a frog and a hammer in my tank since I put in my clowns, and they don't even bother it. This morning was one of the days I wasn't going to feed them (trying to keep my phosphate levels low) and they went right up to the frog spawn and starting eating it! Well at least the female did... Mine used to host in my polyps (until they ate them! >:() so now when I turn on the lights in the morning they are laying in the anthelia. Once they notice the lights on, they bury them selfs really deep into it just like how most people don't want to get up till 9:00 or 10:00 :D. It takes about 5mins to get them out of there. Then they go in search of food. In this morning's case, the food was half a tentacle of some delicious frog spawn... I'm angry at them because that is my best piece of coral.

Also... Saltwatersig, were the clowns you bought tank raised or wild caught?
Do tank raised ones eventually go into anemones?
 
Euph,

IME you never know what a clown will host in regardless of what type, I have a pair of clarkiis that host in a frogspawn, and a pair of B&W that host in a wall anchor even though there are three RBTAs and one GBTA in that tank, not to mention the clowns that for some reason prefer toadstool leathers in a tank with a LTA.
 
these were ora saddlebacks ....so i'm gonna guess tank raised. btw i thought they were brown in color but i was quickly corrected , ora puts out mocha colored saddlebacks :D

my maroon clown btw hosts in my duncans
 
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It happens in the wild as well so IMO your theory doesn't hold much water :) . Again I think you are giving them too much credit. We're not talking high level thought with fish.
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Actually, I'm not giving them any credit for any amount of thinking. :) Just separate species evolving codependant, symbiotic behaviors to mutually benefit their species fitness and survival. The "selfish gene theory" if you will. :)

If you say clowns destroy anemones in the wild, then I have learned something new today. :D
 
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Again I think you are giving them too much credit. We're not talking high level thought with fish.
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Perhaps you're right, but I suspect that they say the same thing about us.
 
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Perhaps you're right, but I suspect that they say the same thing about us.

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