I have terrible handwriting lolI’ll add you. Everyone wrote in the book with that marker. I couldn’t read people’s hand writing.
I have terrible handwriting lolI’ll add you. Everyone wrote in the book with that marker. I couldn’t read people’s hand writing.
Anyone here interested in becoming the new DBTC champion and help reinvigorate the program? We're always looking for people to join the BOD!
I do think this is a big issue for sure. People were lucky enough to have @psidriven to deliver a bunch of frags to the swap from me.I am really excited about DBTC, and I have a bunch of stuff that should hit the market in the next few months (either my own starts or chain completions). A human advocate might help, but the real issues are with the tool itself. There needs to be like a filterable "dashboard" that lets you get a better picture of what's currently available and where. There are not enough filter terms to do this yourself, and a ton of the threads that "have frags available" are clearly super dated and no longer active.
So if you can't really leverage the tool to find frags and drive the program, you basically just have to watch for the threads pop in your forum feed for something you want - but then it's like, is it really worth driving across the Bay to pick up one frag? Maybe if I knew there were 3 other frags available in the same area I would make the trip - but there isn't an easy way to do that without a ton of very manual work and one-off messaging.
The focus seems to be on people not giving enough frags away, but making it easier for people to pick UP frags will drive chain completions and (naturally) more frag movement in general. At least that's kind of how I am thinking about it.
This would help too - some forum flair!dbtc hasn’t been successful in my mind. I pretty much stopped because there really only is a handful of people that seem to really participate.
I suggested we “game-ify” it a little. Don’t know if it would help, but if someone has the time….
Post in thread 'Bright Green Hammer'
https://www.bareefers.org/forum/threads/bright-green-hammer.16955/post-503569
So you're volunteering? Great!I am really excited about DBTC, and I have a bunch of stuff that should hit the market in the next few months (either my own starts or chain completions). A human advocate might help, but the real issues are with the tool itself. There needs to be like a filterable "dashboard" that lets you get a better picture of what's currently available and where. There are not enough filter terms to do this yourself, and a ton of the threads that "have frags available" are clearly super dated and no longer active.
So if you can't really leverage the tool to find frags and drive the program, you basically just have to watch for the threads pop in your forum feed for something you want - but then it's like, is it really worth driving across the Bay to pick up one frag? Maybe if I knew there were 3 other frags available in the same area I would make the trip - but there isn't an easy way to do that without a ton of very manual work and one-off messaging.
The focus seems to be on people not giving enough frags away, but making it easier for people to pick UP frags will drive chain completions and (naturally) more frag movement in general. At least that's kind of how I am thinking about it.
I nominate @derek_SR for DBTC coordinator.So you're volunteering? Great!
Anyone here interested in becoming the new DBTC champion and help reinvigorate the program? We're always looking for people to join the BOD!
One that isn't @psidriven , @Srt4eric , and @Chrism1330 all the time!What we need is a bay area Coral Courier™ On a recurring basis, this vehicle, equipped with temperature controlled storage for corals, to make runs with stops in south, easy, north bay, peninsula, and SF. Logistics seems to be the biggest bottleneck for not just dbtc, but buying and selling reef equipment. Discounted rates for BAR members, open to the public and LFS. That concludes my Shark Tank pitch lol.
What we need is a bay area Coral Courier™ On a recurring basis, this vehicle, equipped with temperature controlled storage for corals, to make runs with stops in south, easy, north bay, peninsula, and SF. Logistics seems to be the biggest bottleneck for not just dbtc, but buying and selling reef equipment. Discounted rates for BAR members, open to the public and LFS. That concludes my Shark Tank pitch lol.
So you're volunteering? Great!
I nominate @derek_SR for DBTC coordinator.
I second the nomination! if @derek_SR is the DBTC coordinator I am sure other will put more corals on the DBTC.
This would help too - some forum flair!
BARCode is Pablo’s @svreef creation, so at the moment he’s the only one who can change significant things in it. There might be a way to delete old non-active chains in the tools Pablo made for us but I’d have to explore more. Currently we are like the proto-human apes in 2001 space odyssey hooting, hollering, and swinging femurs around the BARCode monolith with our ideas. Perhaps @yosemiteclimber will learn the magic words.You're the treasurer - open up them coffers and make it rain! We could save some money by not paying for Sirius Satellite radio in the new vehicle, don't forget to opt-out.
I am flattered but the entire point of my post was that the updates need to happen to the DBTC tool which is outside my skillset! I am interested in joining the BOD, though, so if this is my ticket then we can talk about it. I will at least need some basic access to delete old frags available and make it a little more functional. Can we do that or not until we get the new webmaster?
Lmao there is a app to deliver other things, why not a coral courier one. Reef -porter. Your welcome remember my suggestion when you strike it rich.What we need is a bay area Coral Courier™ On a recurring basis, this vehicle, equipped with temperature controlled storage for corals, to make runs with stops in south, easy, north bay, peninsula, and SF. Logistics seems to be the biggest bottleneck for not just dbtc, but buying and selling reef equipment. Discounted rates for BAR members, open to the public and LFS. That concludes my Shark Tank pitch lol.
Believe it or not, barcode has improved things a ton. I’m sure we could make improvements, but like you said, “we” is not you and me”. I’m not sure anyone will be as good as Pablo was, but I can hope!You're the treasurer - open up them coffers and make it rain! We could save some money by not paying for Sirius Satellite radio in the new vehicle, don't forget to opt-out.
I am flattered but the entire point of my post was that the updates need to happen to the DBTC tool which is outside my skillset! I am interested in joining the BOD, though, so if this is my ticket then we can talk about it. I will at least need some basic access to delete old frags available and make it a little more functional. Can we do that or not until we get the new webmaster?
Yeah to be clear, I think Barcode is super awesome and we are lucky to have it. From an idealists point of view, it is perfect. Realistically speaking, it would be nice to have some improvements to drive adoption. BUT I have some ideas already that would require some work but no significant upgrades, depending on the scope of the admin privileges - I believe I've seen @JVU and others move frags around, are you all also able to "kill" frags on behalf of others? Or create them?Believe it or not, barcode has improved things a ton. I’m sure we could make improvements, but like you said, “we” is not you and me”. I’m not sure anyone will be as good as Pablo was, but I can hope!
I think so. I used to have that power until I got too oldYeah to be clear, I think Barcode is super awesome and we are lucky to have it. From an idealists point of view, it is perfect. Realistically speaking, it would be nice to have some improvements to drive adoption. BUT I have some ideas already that would require some work but no significant upgrades, depending on the scope of the admin privileges - I believe I've seen @JVU and others move frags around, are you all also able to "kill" frags on behalf of others? Or create them?
I don't think the issue is the tool. Barcode definitely needs work, it's a great volunteer tool, but definitely needs work. However, you could do much of what it does with just DBTC threads or a spreadsheet.
The issue is the desire for people to create and manage chains. The tracking only functionality is an implementation detail of something else meaningful. Without that something else meaningful defined, people won't use whatever tool.
I say this with full respect for the amount of effort building this stuff takes. I've mentioned before, but I used to run reeflines[.]com which was all about lineages of corals and pics. It had an ok amount of uptake, got featured on the now defunct glassboxdesign, blah blah. Also had an aggregation of the details people had about corals such as what it looked like on different lights or if they said high versus low flow ...., and image transitions to show things over time.
In the end it didn't stay very active because there wasn't a central draw (well and because I stopped it because I got out of the hobby and didn't want to pay for it anymore). I don't mention that as a statement that it was better, or as an authority on the subject. I just mean it as more features is less critical than figuring out that one big draw that gets people engaged.
Thoughts on that, the benefits have to be to the giver:
Other stuff matters too, like making it easy for people to use for sales or offering freebies. There's a lot more freebies than DBTC. Main reason is it's a lot less overhead to just put up a post then enter in a bunch of screens and make every single coral thing you do require everyone to track forever. However the other benefits would be the main thing
- Bonus grabs at the swap
- Free coral coupons. Top contributor per 6 months gets $100 to buy a coral of their choice under the expectation if it doesn't die they DBTC it
- Tie it to sponsors. My long term idea was integrate with online / LFS and let people track their purchases from the LFS, and by doing so they would be see info on that type of coral and suggestions. Get sponsors to use the site somehow (I doubt this is feasible with a club branded site that sponsors can't control though)
- Give people benefits to using it (which would require more features) such as by uploading pics you get to see your own growth over time
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