How many other lights have you used over the years in order to compare and make this determination?The million dollar question… is it better than kessil which I consider to be the Cadillac of LED fixtures.
How many other lights have you used over the years in order to compare and make this determination?The million dollar question… is it better than kessil which I consider to be the Cadillac of LED fixtures.
Members of BAR can specifically attest to that. Neptune has worked with members as product testers a number of times.Yes, I am hung up on it. I resent the implication that we buy reviews or pay off people in any shape or fashion. Other companies may do that, we don't.
I’m looking forward to this. Glad to hear it is still a priority at Neptune. Obviously it costs dollars and effort to make these integrations happen, but I think your customers appreciate it.We WANT other companies to be able to integrate with Apex. Kessil will be controllable through Apex shortly. Sicce is almost done as well. There are other companies that are working towards integration with Apex as well. We will release more information as they are closer to testing.
To add to this any light could be called the Cadillac of LED fixtures. I’m still using the AI Vegas and there growing corals great. You might be able to say that is the Cadillac of LED fixtures since it’s been running for such a long time and their still working.How many other lights have you used over the years in order to compare and make this determination?
Why would you think that!?!
We are never about sole exclusivity. We WANT other companies to be able to integrate with Apex. Kessil will be controllable through Apex shortly. Sicce is almost done as well. There are other companies that are working towards integration with Apex as well. We will release more information as they are closer to testing.
Kessils are being tested in our facility right now. They need to work on some issues before this can be released. Bear in mind that this is not just on our end, Kessil is actively involved.I think that because it’s been a long time since I saw any progress on the kessil integration effort. They coupled with the fact that kessil is now a competitor to the sky product line.
Usually those two actions are a strong indication in buissness that your going to stop supporting it. Really most buissness operates this way. It makes sense. Drive the competitor out of your Eco system then upsell them on products that integrate better. You double dip on the money pot.
As a Cadillac owner, I demand you take this back immediately.For that matter I don’t think anyone thinks of Cadillac as the Cadillac of cars anymore
I like that fact that everyone has different preferences and that we have various choices.
You see your Cadillac comes from the era when Cadillacs were the Cadillacs of carsAs a Cadillac owner, I demand you take this back immediately.
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And this is why I will keep buying Neptune products. Isn’t this how we want all companies to think? It should be rewarded.Kessils are being tested in our facility right now. They need to work on some issues before this can be released. Bear in mind that this is not just on our end, Kessil is actively involved.
We don't work that way. We want you to be successful. If you choose to use a different pump, different light etc, we want to help you be successful. We understand that our solutions don't fit every situation and it would arrogant to think that everything we make is suitable for everyone in every situation. For eg, if you have a system that has a basement sump or a sump that is very far away from the DT, the COR may not be the correct application for it. A pump like an Abyzz or a high pressure Red Dragon may be better. And both pumps can be integrated into Apex for control.
This a an (almost) age old debate, and you're probably not going to score a whole lot of points on this board with an antagonistic attitude about it. Nepteun is not only a local company that supports this club better than any other company, but the club also has some of it's oldest members that work there and many are friends with.Hmm so this is $869.00. A used Kessil AP700 (IMHO comparable) is going used for $450.00 ish. A new Kessil A9X is going for 839.00 . I would consider these to be the closest competitors. Really what makes this better than the a9x. It seems based on the video ( and the very obvious graphics showing how "bad" other companies designs were) that's the target audience.
- Randy
Which is one of the reasons that Orphek's found such immediate acceptance with high-end reefers, and became a "go-to" light. It appears the Neptune light will compete well with that light, and it's MaP pricing is a couple hundred dollars cheaper than Orphek's.The 9x has 2 point light sources spread out, very much similar to my AP700s. It has excellent blending and shimmer. However due to the point light source, light angles are extreme, resulting in deep shadows under overhangs and other corals.
If the graphic convinces you the other companies have 'bad' designs when compared to what our light does, that's your prerogative I guess.
The 9x has 2 point light sources spread out, very much similar to my AP700s. It has excellent blending and shimmer. However due to the point light source, light angles are extreme, resulting in deep shadows under overhangs and other corals.
If the graphic convinces you the other companies have 'bad' designs when compared to what our light does, that's your prerogative I guess.
You brought it up. Not me.Its not really my prerogative at all. it's what the ad you linked everyone here to shows. Other members have pointed it out already too so not going to beat a dead horse.
Hopefully someone will show a side by side comparison of SKY vs AP9x. I think a lot of people are going to be making this comparison. Similar price point etc.
- Randy
You brought it up. Not me.
What the video does is point out the difference. If by pointing out the difference, it now makes you feel the other lights are 'bad', then it is your prerogative.
Is the AP9x a great light? Yes, absolutely.
Here's another insight I'm surprised no one has pointed out yet. I still run AP700s on my home tank. If the SKY is that much better, why haven't I switched being that I work for the company and all !?!
While I would have had to pay for them, that isn't why.Well I am going out on a limb why you didn't switch.... You would have to pay for the sky even if it's at a killer price internally as an employee.
While I would have had to pay for them, that isn't why.
I'm a skeptic of all things new. Even through the whole development phase of the Trident and now the SKY, I keep asking is it really necessary or is it really better?