How many other lights have you used over the years in order to compare and make this determination?
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Members of BAR can specifically attest to that. Neptune has worked with members as product testers a number of times.
I’m looking forward to this. Glad to hear it is still a priority at Neptune. Obviously it costs dollars and effort to make these integrations happen, but I think your customers appreciate it.
NickRoseSN1985
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To add to this any light could be called the Cadillac of LED fixtures. I’m still using the AI Vegas and there growing corals great. You might be able to say that is the Cadillac of LED fixtures since it’s been running for such a long time and their still working.
TurboReef
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I think that because it’s been a long time since I saw any progress on the kessil integration effort. They coupled with the fact that kessil is now a competitor to the sky product line.
Usually those two actions are a strong indication in buissness that your going to stop supporting it. Really most buissness operates this way. It makes sense. Drive the competitor out of your Eco system then upsell them on products that integrate better. You double dip on the money pot.
Vhuang168
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Kessils are being tested in our facility right now. They need to work on some issues before this can be released. Bear in mind that this is not just on our end, Kessil is actively involved.
We don't work that way. We want you to be successful. If you choose to use a different pump, different light etc, we want to help you be successful. We understand that our solutions don't fit every situation and it would arrogant to think that everything we make is suitable for everyone in every situation. For eg, if you have a system that has a basement sump or a sump that is very far away from the DT, the COR may not be the correct application for it. A pump like an Abyzz or a high pressure Red Dragon may be better. And both pumps can be integrated into Apex for control.
Baykes
Supporting Member
You see your Cadillac comes from the era when Cadillacs were the Cadillacs of cars
And this is why I will keep buying Neptune products. Isn’t this how we want all companies to think? It should be rewarded.
Vhuang168
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From Don Martin (he is NSI)
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The embargo has been lifted and I can now talk about the Neptune Systems SKY! I am currently running 4 of them over my 120x30x36 display. Long term I will be running 5 and also 2 on my frag tank. I have been a MH/XHO user for many years. I love my 400w Radiums. I never thought I would be...
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This a an (almost) age old debate, and you're probably not going to score a whole lot of points on this board with an antagonistic attitude about it. Nepteun is not only a local company that supports this club better than any other company, but the club also has some of it's oldest members that work there and many are friends with.
That being said, there's nothing wrong with the discussion if you're not antaonistic and remain civil -- and are willing to be open to learning new things.
First. your supposition that the Sky Light is meant to compete mostly with a Kessil is silly. Kessil's are popular lights (and the company is also local and supports this club), but many full out SPS reefers don't use them, and it appears that the Sky Light is more targeted to compete with some of the other popular choices among SPS reefers (among others.)
I suspect this light will compete well with the Orphek Atlantik V4 for instance which for many SPS reef tanks is considered the Lamborghini of lights. BRS just a year or so ago reviewed it as the best LeD light they'd ever reviewed. It performed better than the comparable Kessils. There's other lights that have always performed well that the Sky Light will compete with as well. Radions, Mitras, AI 64's, T5's, etc.
I am curious (admittedly a trait that is often my downfall) though how you came to your conclusion that Kessil's are the best? Again just curious what brought you to that conclusion.
Vhuang168
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The 9x has 2 point light sources spread out, very much similar to my AP700s. It has excellent blending and shimmer. However due to the point light source, light angles are extreme, resulting in deep shadows under overhangs and other corals.
If the graphic convinces you the other companies have 'bad' designs when compared to what our light does, that's your prerogative I guess.
If the graphic convinces you the other companies have 'bad' designs when compared to what our light does, that's your prerogative I guess.
Which is one of the reasons that Orphek's found such immediate acceptance with high-end reefers, and became a "go-to" light. It appears the Neptune light will compete well with that light, and it's MaP pricing is a couple hundred dollars cheaper than Orphek's.
TurboReef
Guest
Its not really my prerogative at all. it's what the ad you linked everyone here to shows. Other members have pointed it out already too so not going to beat a dead horse.
Hopefully someone will show a side by side comparison of SKY vs AP9x. I think a lot of people are going to be making this comparison. Similar price point etc.
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Vhuang168
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You brought it up. Not me.
What the video does is point out the difference. If by pointing out the difference, it now makes you feel the other lights are 'bad', then it is your prerogative.
Is the AP9x a great light? Yes, absolutely.
Here's another insight I'm surprised no one has pointed out yet. I still run AP700s on my home tank. If the SKY is that much better, why haven't I switched being that I work for the company and all !?!
TurboReef
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Well I am going out on a limb why you didn't switch.... You would have to pay for the sky even if it's at a killer price internally as an employee.
Vhuang168
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While I would have had to pay for them, that isn't why.
I'm a skeptic of all things new. Even through the whole development phase of the Trident and now the SKY, I keep asking is it really necessary or is it really better?
Oops.. posted too early.
...... I was 1 of the last in the office to get a Trident. And I'm the last in the whole company (including personal stationed outside of Ca) to get a SKY.
When I finally got my Trident, I went from a skeptic to testing 24 times a day even though I was supposed to run only 4 (I did get some talking to for it because reagents were not plentiful at that time)
With the SKY, I've seen 1st hand tanks going from Kessil 360s, Philips Coral Cares and Radions to SKYs. I've seen the proof in the pudding as they say. So I will get SKYs for my office tank and will switch from AP700s to SKYs for the home tank in the near future.
TurboReef
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I myself don't link buying the first iteration of a product car etc. It's like you're paying to beta test.